155gr eld match loads
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155gr eld match loads
Hey guys just wondering if anyone uses 155gr eld match projectiles and would care to share any load data? I'm running 2206h and wlr primers in win brass. Any help would be greatly appreciated before I load 100 rounds that won't work
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
Hi Mick. Don't know of anyone using them at this stage as they are not an approved projectile for TR or F standard at present as far as I'm aware. You could shoot F Open with them to see how they go and report back to let us know. Regards Malcolm.
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
mick,
before you load 100 rds, it might pay to do a little load work up, wherever your date comes from.
bruce.
before you load 100 rds, it might pay to do a little load work up, wherever your date comes from.
bruce.
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
Oh my bad I saw they were approved for .223 so I made the mistake and assumed they were ok in .308.
Yes I was still going to load lots of 5 at .3gr increments but was trying to take a small shortcut which is probably a bad idea. But yes I will do that and start from the lowest. And also do I test them at 100m or is 300m going to give me a better idea? Yes i am a newbie.
Yes I was still going to load lots of 5 at .3gr increments but was trying to take a small shortcut which is probably a bad idea. But yes I will do that and start from the lowest. And also do I test them at 100m or is 300m going to give me a better idea? Yes i am a newbie.
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
mick6220 wrote:Oh my bad I saw they were approved for .223 so I made the mistake and assumed they were ok in .308.
Yes I was still going to load lots of 5 at .3gr increments but was trying to take a small shortcut which is probably a bad idea. But yes I will do that and start from the lowest. And also do I test them at 100m or is 300m going to give me a better idea? Yes i am a newbie.
I’m sure no one is going to get upset shooting these at club level, especially a newbie !
We have all been there , in fact I use to shoot 155 amax’s Very early in the piece, until like you I found out that they weren’t approved .
I can’t help you much with 2206 h , but I recall loads around the 44.3-.6 gr and possibly a 10 thou jump at first . I’ve found over the years that certain powders , that is ADI powders ( as that all I’ve ever shot with !). Shoot like duck to water , pie with tomato sauce eg that is brilliantly with some primers than others , and this across different calibers as well .
So to help with ocw ( optimum charge weight) and a consistent burn . I’ve found for me , 2206 h loves cci br 2’s / 200’ s and 2208 or vargent in a .308 , fed gold medal / 210’s seem to be the GO !
However this is not always the case as my 280 ai with 2213sc will work with br’s and fed gold medal 210’s depending on the ambient temp .
So at the end of the day every barrel is different and has its personalities .
All the best mate ! Regards Graham.
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
Thanks Graham very well explained. I'm only using the wlr's and eld match because that's all the local shop had in primers and they had no hpbt in 155gr and I'm impatient But I'm not out to win anything I just want to see how accurate my std rem700 is in its new ally stock. So thanks for the advice it's greatly appreciated as the people on here (other than me) seem to have a lot of wisdom. I will work up 5 starter loads and hopefully test them this Sunday if work permits.
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
I do not use 155 ELD's for F-class but do use them a lot in my tikka T3 .308 for hunting.
I use benchmark 8208 and I can vouch for 44.3 to 44.5 grains with very good results out to 700 yards.
And note this is with quite a large jump, large enough so the loads fit into a magazine.
So with a bit of load development including jump experiment you should go ok at the range.
Cheers
Jason
I use benchmark 8208 and I can vouch for 44.3 to 44.5 grains with very good results out to 700 yards.
And note this is with quite a large jump, large enough so the loads fit into a magazine.
So with a bit of load development including jump experiment you should go ok at the range.
Cheers
Jason
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
Hi Jason thanks for that i only have 2206h at the moment and from what I've read the rem 700 has a massive freebore. The test loads I did are 2.820 but no idea on the jump involved.
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
Jason72 wrote:I do not use 155 ELD's for F-class but do use them a lot in my tikka T3 .308 for hunting.
I use benchmark 8208 and I can vouch for 44.3 to 44.5 grains with very good results out to 700 yards.
And note this is with quite a large jump, large enough so the loads fit into a magazine.
So with a bit of load development including jump experiment you should go ok at the range.
Cheers
Jason
How do you find the 155 ELD M on game? I know the old A max were pretty good but some have said the M pencil through thin skinned game but the X are great.
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
Accuracy is excellent however I would not recommend them if you are shooting on small properties as they do go straight through and out the other side.
As an example when I was sighting in with a new scope I was out west and only using an A4 piece of paper between two star pickets. It was a slightly windy day and at 600 metres (not yards) the projectile went straight through the star picket.
That is why I only use them for hunting on properties I used to work on out west (50k to 200k acres) where I can see behind what I am shooting and know the terrain.
Cheers
Jason
As an example when I was sighting in with a new scope I was out west and only using an A4 piece of paper between two star pickets. It was a slightly windy day and at 600 metres (not yards) the projectile went straight through the star picket.
That is why I only use them for hunting on properties I used to work on out west (50k to 200k acres) where I can see behind what I am shooting and know the terrain.
Cheers
Jason
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
target shooters have 2 sets of ballistics to consider.
in the gun and in flight.
there is a 3rd set of ballistics, probably overriding the above mentioned in importance, for hunting.
terminal ballistics are so important to quick clean humane kills.
the bullet must be consistent in terminal performance, and suit the game hunted.
such bullets of necessity must have lower b.c. than target bullets.
also, as Jason suggests, general safety can override all other considerations.
bruce.
in the gun and in flight.
there is a 3rd set of ballistics, probably overriding the above mentioned in importance, for hunting.
terminal ballistics are so important to quick clean humane kills.
the bullet must be consistent in terminal performance, and suit the game hunted.
such bullets of necessity must have lower b.c. than target bullets.
also, as Jason suggests, general safety can override all other considerations.
bruce.
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
Ok , since we are talking terminal ballistics for ethical hunting. For a .308 w one can’t go past hornady z Max 168 gr very impressive terminal all the way out to 700-800 yds which is the limit of my hunting/ prs Remington rifle . Load is and all loads should be worked up . 168 gr Z Max , 44.4 gr of 2208 and br 4 small rifle primers and lap Palma brass . Slight jump . 2730 FPS , 26” Lilja.
In the early days I used 155’s amax and most of the time they did fragment on terminal. Sometimes they went through. Lap scennars 155’s I wouldn’t recommend for hunting and the .308 Berger 168 hunting unless on pigs I wouldn’t recommend either.
However, going to the extreme, Berger hybrids elite hunter .338 -300 gr projectile is very impressive terminal.
Also 30 cal 208 Amax in a .300 rum is also impressive.
I will say that the .300 rum is a brilliant LR hunting cal and if anyone had a desire to own a cannon, I would even recommend it over a 338 edge . The 300 is just nice to shoot where the edge rattled my fillings and gives you a headache after 5-10 shots .
lR hunting would have to be the most demanding skill to master , if one ever masters it 100 percent? In fact this is how I got into f class in the first place .
I don’t hunt much anymore now these days . Just punch paper . Hope that helps someone
In the early days I used 155’s amax and most of the time they did fragment on terminal. Sometimes they went through. Lap scennars 155’s I wouldn’t recommend for hunting and the .308 Berger 168 hunting unless on pigs I wouldn’t recommend either.
However, going to the extreme, Berger hybrids elite hunter .338 -300 gr projectile is very impressive terminal.
Also 30 cal 208 Amax in a .300 rum is also impressive.
I will say that the .300 rum is a brilliant LR hunting cal and if anyone had a desire to own a cannon, I would even recommend it over a 338 edge . The 300 is just nice to shoot where the edge rattled my fillings and gives you a headache after 5-10 shots .
lR hunting would have to be the most demanding skill to master , if one ever masters it 100 percent? In fact this is how I got into f class in the first place .
I don’t hunt much anymore now these days . Just punch paper . Hope that helps someone
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Re: 155gr eld match loads
Start around 43.8 and work up to 44.6/44.8 of 2206 h, watching carefully for pressure signs. I have found that the eldm tends to give a bit higher pressure and higher velocity than other manufacturers at the same weight. They also leave more copper than some such as lapua by a large amount.
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