Alan,
2001, 2006, 2012 isn't all that regular - and it cost us $15 a kilogram each way to send our ammo & kit over to Britain last time. The alternative of running up 600 odd rounds for each of a 16 person team over there with components that are somewhat more restricted than they are here is more than a little daunting.
Remember, too that it's a one on one with match rifle. We go there & a couple of years later, they come back. With Palma & F Class (if we shooters commit to it), you're talking of 4 years between events & half a dozen nations likely to want to host. That means that you travel way over there 4 times, to Kiwiland possibly once & have it at home once every twenty odd years - and then only once in a century is it going to be in your home state.
They're the travel odds that I think Matt was referring to.
John
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johnk wrote:..They're the travel odds that I think Matt was referring to...
Point taken John. But I will remain a keen advocate of international competition. When you see what's going on with ANZAC range, you realise what we're up against politically here in Australia. Being part of a worldwide competition structure will play a part in securing our future - if we can show we are competiitive at World Championships etc., we'll be taken more seriously and get more support from the Australian public.
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Now I could be wrong Alan, but I don't think the Australian population even knows or understands what TR and F Class even is? For us to gain there support maybe the NRAA needs to advertise or to some degree tryand educate non shooters about what and who we are as a sport. It's a bit hard to get the backing or support from people who don't even know we exist.
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No I don’t need to rephrase , I just don’t think you read before you comment, as I said they have every projectile they want, I did not say they had open slather on projectiles. If you only want to change every thing I write to some thing you want to say just say it, but please don’t turn round what I write to suit your self.
So we have to change F/Class std to F/TR or F/ Open if we want to host a shooting event here in Australia, but I thought Match rifle was the event for F/Class open to compete in for long distance and if you want to shoot anything else overseas you shoot F/Open. And I can not see clubs or state associations letting F/TR shoot in prize meeting and Queens just for the hell of it, who is going to organize the shoot, the Australian F/TR association. We do not need to change F/Class in Australia. The people that want to shoot F/TR or any other discipline just practice there skills here then go over seas and compete. I think when the NRAA introduced ICFRA target and scoring to Australia they open up a can of worms that they are not going to be able to control.
Time will tell john, what if the 90.0grn projectiles work out, that will change the thinking of a lot of .308 shooters I am sure of that.
JohnK
I am not misinformed, I have just stated that people that shoot .308 have a greater choice of projectiles than the .223 shooters. And the choices for .223 shooters are rubbish except for the Sierra 80.0gn projectile. As for the SSRs you mean somebody actually has finally updated the SSRs and set copies to all the state associations, well I never thought the day would arrive.
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No I don’t need to rephrase , I just don’t think you read before you comment, as I said they have every projectile they want, I did not say they had open slather on projectiles. If you only want to change every thing I write to some thing you want to say just say it, but please don’t turn round what I write to suit your self.
So we have to change F/Class std to F/TR or F/ Open if we want to host a shooting event here in Australia, but I thought Match rifle was the event for F/Class open to compete in for long distance and if you want to shoot anything else overseas you shoot F/Open. And I can not see clubs or state associations letting F/TR shoot in prize meeting and Queens just for the hell of it, who is going to organize the shoot, the Australian F/TR association. We do not need to change F/Class in Australia. The people that want to shoot F/TR or any other discipline just practice there skills here then go over seas and compete. I think when the NRAA introduced ICFRA target and scoring to Australia they open up a can of worms that they are not going to be able to control.
Time will tell john, what if the 90.0grn projectiles work out, that will change the thinking of a lot of .308 shooters I am sure of that.
JohnK
I am not misinformed, I have just stated that people that shoot .308 have a greater choice of projectiles than the .223 shooters. And the choices for .223 shooters are rubbish except for the Sierra 80.0gn projectile. As for the SSRs you mean somebody actually has finally updated the SSRs and set copies to all the state associations, well I never thought the day would arrive.
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Deano 29 wrote:Now I could be wrong Alan, but I don't think the Australian population even knows or understands what TR and F Class even is? For us to gain there support maybe the NRAA needs to advertise or to some degree tryand educate non shooters about what and who we are as a sport. It's a bit hard to get the backing or support from people who don't even know we exist.
Just my opinion of course
It is not only up to the NRAA to advertise our sport. It is up to ALL members. Every one of us should be out there telling the general public about our sport. We are a legal sport, be proud of what you do.
I wear my club uniform to my kids hockey games on Saturday mornings. Without fail, I will have someone come up, and ask questions about the club. It works even better when another club member shows up, also in his uniform. This has been a great way to canvas new members.
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"every projectile they want" means exactly that. If they want your beloved berger VLD's then they can have them according to your exact words.
No turning things around. That's exactly what you wrote. Unless of course you've also decided you want the NRAA to re-write the English language dictionary once they're done submitting to your other demands.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/want
Your exact words...
Except the rules say that they cannot.
I strongly suggest that you put down your book on exterior ballistics and pick up the SSR's rule book and read that instead.
No turning things around. That's exactly what you wrote. Unless of course you've also decided you want the NRAA to re-write the English language dictionary once they're done submitting to your other demands.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/want
Ned wrote:...every projectile they want...
Your exact words...
Except the rules say that they cannot.
I strongly suggest that you put down your book on exterior ballistics and pick up the SSR's rule book and read that instead.