QRA Leadup

[Guest]

Reading the QRA results for day one of leadup.
C grade ---4 entries---lousy.
FO ---- 4 entries----Just as lousy.
FS ----22 entries --- reasonable but 28 points between top and bottom. Really gives the B Grader a lot of incentive does'nt it?
Don't the QRA know that they are allowed to grade FS? or don't they care?( They are ONLY scope shooters I suppose, so who cares? )
The split appears to be 11each grade and thats still almost 3x the C grade and FO numbers.
Pissed off.
Barry

[Matt P]

Barry
Where did you put Mr Trindal, A or B ??
If numbers in C grade continue as they have (which is a pity, it means FB is dying) badges and prize lists will have to be adjusted. I have always beleived the badge and prizes are to top heavy, do you really deserve a badge for coming 25th ???? But your're probably right "we're only scope shooters, which isn't real shooting".
Matt P

[Guest]

Hi Matt,
Mr Trindle is A grade and still is. Believe he had some problems chambering---doesn't come into the grading formula.
Yep I get a bit pissed, I mean they in QLD still refer to us as "scopeys" --cannot even get that right. Sort of rhymes with " dopeys " doesn't it?
Doesn't only apply to Qld either. There are still some around who score FS with a "V " instead of 6. And then there are those who still cannot get the FO target correct-or have never heard of it. Not to mention those who still score FS as for FB.
No mate you don't deserve a badge for coming 25th---it's a bloody ego trip.
C Grade is almost non existant but should still receive recogition, but not to the degree it does and at the expense of F class who are now the cream on top of most PM's
Any wonder I get p'd off.
Barry

[AlanF]

Most TR shooters I talk to give F-Class the respect it deserves. Scopes and rests can't read the wind! Those who don't like F-Class usually do it from a position of ignorance i.e. they've never tried it, and probably never will. On the other hand we should be prepared to acknowledge the greater range of skills required for TR.

Alan

[Peter Marum]

QRA, could it be the Australian chapter of the Luddites

Peter

[John E]

Most TR shooters I talk to give F-Class the respect it deserves. Scopes and rests can't read the wind! Those who don't like F-Class usually do it from a position of ignorance i.e. they've never tried it, and probably never will. On the other hand we should be prepared to acknowledge the greater range of skills required for TR.

Alan

Alan,
I think you've been hanging around Blastill too long, and he's brainwashed you.
As an ex- full bore shooter --- I started in 1960 --- I would say that full full bore doesn't require a greater range of skills, but the degree of difficulty is perhaps greater for FB, but that's self-inflicted. The basics are the same --- you still have hold the rifle steady, see the same picture every time, squeeze a good shot away, follow through, and get the wind right, and the last point requires a greater degree of accuracy for FClass than FB.
With the increasing numbers in FS, it will be interesting to see if the organisers of Prize Meetings continue to ignore the provisions in the new rules, or if they see the light and embrace them as they should --- after all they are national guidelines. At the moment, they seem to be like our "national gun laws" --- anything but "national".
John

[Guest]

True words Alan, almost, but there are none so ignorant as those who "don't want to know". F Class is here to stay so it should be treated with the respect it deserves. Generally it does, but there are still isolated pockets of resistance who make you feel like you have the pox, or something worse.
The enlightened ones welcome us with open arms knowing full well that 30% of their entry is made up of F Class, credit to them.
This I believe is where South Aust. win hands down in the PR stakes, there are not many of them but they have a common interest---the target.
I don't particularly want to get into the target issue again as even though I believe a common target would be better, my reasons for favouring the FB target for FS are well documented.
Skill levels, now thats a point well worth discussing, " the target defines the skill level" ( required )
Skill level can be divided into 3 categories.
Personal skills which cover -- technique, wind reading etc. Rifle set up-- and ammunition ( broadly speaking ) Together these things are defined by the limits of what you have to hit ( target ) eg the larger the target, the less accurate the skill level required. However, there is also a limit to the skill level obtainable. Exceed this and you now enter the realm of the impossible, where fortune plays a major part, be it good or bad. So, having said this I cannot agree with your statement re the " greater range of skills required for TR"
Barry

[AlanF]

...I cannot agree with your statement re the " greater range of skills required for TR"...

Perhaps range of skills is not quite the right word - perhaps physical attributes is better. And I'm referring to eyesight, and steadiness. My own case is an example - I tried every trick in the book to develop a steady hold in a sling, but never could - I could tell you where every shot was going but there were no points awarded for that!

Alan

[AlanF]

Well done Barb Moritz and Chris Burdett .

Click Here for the QRA website Queens results page.

Alan