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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:34 pm
by Lynn Otto
To be fair Alan et al this particular discussion is in "General Forum" not the FT/R forum so the discussion can be as 'general' as respondents wish.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:45 pm
by Fireman_DJ
Actually, this thread in the general forum is regarding the subject of "Specific Rule Category for F/TR". So any post not concerning that IS off topic.
If people wish to talk about any other "general" things, they are more then welcome to start their OWN threads with what ever subjects they desire.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:53 pm
by TOM
This is about the demise of F standard Alan, your an F open shooter and as such im sure you know the grand plan involving the aforementioned and F/TR.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:59 pm
by bruce moulds
tom,
please define the big plan.
keep safe,
bruce.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:04 pm
by Southcape
4.5 years?
I am stumped? Can you please enlighten us?
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:10 pm
by RAVEN
Tommy I wouldn't be going down that track
You make cryptic inferences about something you have heard second hand.
I know what you’re on about something posted in a private forum miss quoted and taken out of context.
Believe what you want but some advice I wouldn’t be commenting on things you know nothing about.
It’s actually hilarious

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:26 pm
by AlanF
TOM wrote:This is about the demise of F standard Alan
Tom,
If you're worried about F/TR as a threat to F-Std, then can I suggest a better option than bagging F/TR would be to promote the virtues of F-Std? After all its rise in popularity over the last 10 years has been spectacular. This talk of F/TR replacing F-Std in Australia is coming from a very small minority. I'd expect F/TR to draw some of its numbers from F-Std, some from TR, and most from outside full bore (with some variation depending on the State). The 3 categories can exist side by side in the same way that F-Std and F-Open have done for years. I am enthusiastically promoting F/TR to help it get off the ground, because I know there are shooters who prefer it to either F-Std or F-Open. If I thought it was going to lead to the demise of one of the other F-Classes, then I wouldn't be promoting it. And I think you'll find the vast majority of F/TR supporters (including Raven) think the same way.
Alan
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:59 pm
by RAVEN
Ditto Alan

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:38 am
by bruce moulds
in s.a., the fclass assn will fight for the survival of std should it have to, which it probably won't.
std will always have the feeder of tr, which is a natural progression.
ftr will have a different feeder, and can only complement the other two fclass disciplines, thus making shooting stronger in general.
keep safe,
bruce.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:50 am
by bruce moulds
tom, if the plan you mention is what i think it is, your knowledge of it can only have come from one source.
that source took it out of context to make a cheap shot and used it where someone couldn't answer back due to confidence. credit to those who had enough honour to not correct it.
should this be the case, and i could be wrong, you should put up and elaborate on the plan of which you talk, giving facts to demonstrate your full understanding of the situation, or shut up and not shoot someone elses bullets without knowing what is in them.
your credibility might then come up a notch.
keep safe,
bruce.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:12 am
by Barry Davies
F/Std is still firmly attached to TR and will stay that way. When TR goes ICFRA 100% -and I believe it ultimately will, FS will be further enhanced by better projectiles, lighter triggers, and all else that goes with it.- maybe even unlimited weight

now, that's worth looking forward to.
The benefits of being attached to TR far outweigh anything F/TR can offer ( other than international recognition, of which the majority could'nt care less)
So, I would'nt worry too much about F/TR spelling the demise of FS -- too many shooters enjoy what FS has to offer.
Barry
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:28 am
by bruce moulds
barry,
you just nailed it.
keep safe,
bruce.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:38 am
by RAVEN
Well put Barry
hopefully we can get through to some of these ppl
More members in clubs more variety good for all.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:50 am
by Southcape
I have stated all along that there is room for all of us to play in F Class, and I agree with what Alan and Barry have said above.
Sure, not everyone wishes to shoot international competition, but currently we have also closed our doors to international F/TR shooters that wish to come and shoot in this great country.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:02 pm
by Brad Y
Hi Alan
Yes I thought it a good idea. Im not against F/TR but Im a FS shooter and just believed that part of the forum was being filled with content that deserved its own section as it wasnt applicable to FS.
My take on it all is I would expect F/TR to develop itself further and not work against FS or FO as it progresses. If it were to harm another discipline then I would oppose that, but in the mean time its going to be a step towards getting more people into shooting which is a bonus to any discipline.