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Re: Angle vs flat fore end and stock butt

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:54 am
by ned kelly
G'day all,
you can simply adjust the whole base of the rest rather than make a new top. Mike Ratigan in his book on SR BR mentions this.
Cheerio Ned

Re: Angle vs flat fore end and stock butt

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:04 am
by AlanF
My "pivot" joy-stick rest design actually rotates forward and back, not intentionally for the reasons above. But it also rotates around a vertical axis, which the purists would scorn. Over the years I've refined things like removing any slop out of axles, and adding weight to the feet, and it seems to get the job done. I tend to be more suspicious of rear bag problems than front rest. Very important to pack the rear bag down first, and not good if you have to keep moving it back to position.

Re: Angle vs flat fore end and stock butt

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:24 am
by williada
Alan, you might remember a contraption I made a long time ago, which had a tilting head on a joy stick, but no leathers and you queried its legality. I was testing rather than competing. Now Ned raises an interesting point about the rear bag. Would it be legal to have an angle adjustable platform to place the rear bag on? We see spacers and spikes now. How would others feel about that?

I would also be interested in where people consider the balance point on their rifle is in relation to their recoil plate? Also interested in how much weight they place on their front rest compared to the rear bag?

Re: Angle vs flat fore end and stock butt

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:43 am
by williada
Alan, I just thought of a solution to the rear bag angle. If the rear bag, rather than having ears, and not flat on top either, but round and hard packed like a sausage any angle could be accommodated. However the butt, like the one on my wife's rifle would have to be broad at the base, which would stabilize it further. Taking the design further, could the sausage have bearings installed to act like a roller (mini paint roller) and still be constructed of leather and hard packed sand to be legal? Food for thought. David.

Re: Angle vs flat fore end and stock butt

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:46 am
by Longranger
I carry a few aluminium plates which screw onto the base of the rear bag to change height to accommodate mound slope. My home range has a fairly extreme angle to the mounds. It was never intended for F class which evolved later.

It would be nice to have an easy mechanical adjustment but I am sure it would conflict with the SSR's.

Re: Angle vs flat fore end and stock butt

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:48 am
by Bindi2
As spike and spacer user I try and place my gear on the mound with peak between the rest and bag. I can level my rest but not the bag without wedge shaped plates which I have seen used to fix the problems. The idea of levelling spike plate has had some design time as has the wedges

Re: Angle vs flat fore end and stock butt

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:51 pm
by DannyS
I have a Peter Kelly made plate to go under the rear bag, it has a screw fitting on each corner, so I can level sideways and fore and aft to a small degree. Never had a problem using it provided it is not adjusted during a shoot.

Cheers
Danny

Ps David, will take some measurements of my tuner tomorrow and will be in contact.

Re: Angle vs flat fore end and stock butt

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:09 pm
by williada
Seems logical Danny. How much time do we waste holding up the days match getting everything set up prior to shooting? With your rig, you can get your act together quickly and get on with the business or concentrate on reading conditions rather than focussing on whether the bag is in place. It would make it so much easier for people with a disability.