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Re: Which Scope?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:14 am
by pjifl
I have a piece of cardboard that is always updated with the latest Riflescope Elevation as it is set.
It eliminates most of the 'one turn out' problems Alan mentions. It usually gets tucked under the barrel when in storage but can be in a bullet box when shooting.
Another solution is to stick a large white label around the scope front tube and write on this. Whatever you do, keep records and update them after ever setting or shoot.
It is really worthwhile having a a range table glued onto the side of the rifle or scope. All my rifles have this on Photopaper under stick on clear plastic on the side of the stock. It is always with you when needed.
Side focus is nice. Easier. One minor downside is that it often gets moved when the rifle is handled.
About to close down and leave for the NQ Queens week of shooting.
Peter Smith.
Re: Which Scope?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:51 am
by aaronraad
Don't forget to look at your mounts and rings once you decide on a scope, as you may require a certain amount of vertical offset (10 to 20 MOA) to get the scope centred and adjustable from your minimum to your maximum target range. Large amounts of offset might require higher rings to ensure the objective lens still clears the barrel.
Current scopes designed for long range, typically have significantly more vertical (and windage) adjustment built into their cross-hair adjustments than previous generations. Tube diameter usually dictates the amount of adjustment available and increases relatively speaking from 1" diameter (Weaver T-Series) to 30mm (Nightforce BR series) to 34mm/35mm (Burris XTR II series) and even to 40mm (IOR Terminator Tactical series) varieties. Correspondingly you will find price increases, but not necessarily the quality of the usable optical transmission, nor the precision/repeatability of the W&E adjustments.
Starting to wonder why they just don't go for straight diameter tubes and add a rail like the option on Zeiss, or the Burris Eliminator series?Remember scopes might allow us to see more than our
low magnification tubeless Galilean telescope wielding TR parents

on the mound, but if they don't click and hold where you point them all the 'edge clarity', 'brightness' and E&W adjustment in the world won't keep you on centre.
Sorry TR Mums & Dads, but they're no longer peep sights IMHO when you can mount anything, but a flat lens in the front or rear.

Re: Which Scope?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:14 pm
by Tim N
Hi All
Another one to consider is the sightron
Mr Davies uses them and he is known to put them through various "tests" of reliability and resistance to impact , approx table to floor drop tests
I have a march and a sightron, lately I've been using the sightron on my 7mm and it's fine
Re: Which Scope?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 4:10 pm
by Brad Y
Tim N wrote:Hi All
Another one to consider is the sightron
Mr Davies uses them and he is known to put them through various "tests" of reliability and resistance to impact , approx table to floor drop tests
I have a march and a sightron, lately I've been using the sightron on my 7mm and it's fine
What would he know... he mounts them on sideways!

Re: Which Scope?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 4:35 pm
by RDavies
I like the Sightron 10-50x60 scopes and they are worth considering for someone on a budget.
They are slightly lighter than the old Nightforce BRs.
10-50x magnification is pretty much what most people want.
They have side adjust parallax (If you mount them the normal way)
10 Moa rotations and tracking appears to be good.
From what I have heard they appear to be reliable and I can vouch that they are not indestructible, but they do take quite a bit to break and it wasn't normal wear and tear.
I am no optics expert but the optics seem to be good enough for what we need in F class. If I was trying to find a 6mm bullet hole in a 500M fly target, yes I suppose a March or Night Force will have better optics to find it, but the Sightrons optics are perfectly fine for seeing the rings on targets, orange spotters and for reading most mirage.
I do love my March scopes and will look at a new Nightforce comp but my new 7MM F Open gun will be wearing a Sightron 10-50x.
Re: Which Scope?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 7:00 pm
by jondavball
Thank you everyone for your comments and advice, it is appreciated. It looks like NF is the way to go, but will look at the other suggestions as well as I am not in a rush. I will update once I have purchased something.
JB
Re: Which Scope?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:39 pm
by pjifl
I also know of a few people using the Sightron 10-50 which seems better than many of the other other Sightrons.
If I was going Sightron because of Budget, this is the best option.
Peter Smith
Re: Which Scope?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:32 pm
by AlanF
Yes I have a SIII 10-50 and it is my normal Saturday scope. Its heavier than the NF Comp, and optics not quite as bright and clear, especially round the edges, but a very good scope for F-Class with no serious weaknesses.
Re: Which Scope?
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 6:33 am
by John23
Being poor I don't have the options like March and NF comp.
On my last scope purchase I was limited to around $1000.
It came down to the NF Br 12-42 and the sightron s3 10-50.
I ended up with the sightron for a couple of reasons.
It features 50moa of adjustment be the NFs 45moa?
It features side focus vs Nf front adjustment
It is also a proven choice being the second one I have owned.
They have good glass and have worked flawlessly for me.
They must be purchased from the USA otherwise local shops will want $1600+ for one.
Imported you will be up for $1100 odd which is a lot of scope for the money.
Even if I had double my budget I would not feel the need to upgrade the scope to a march ect.
In saying that if money was no object I would consider the more expensive makes like March and Nf comp