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John, I don't think I ever mentioned anything about excessive prizes etc, all I said or alluded to, was that clubs should at least offer badges to 1st, 2nd and 3rd places.

I have also been around for quite a few years and well remember a number of professional C & B grade fullbore shooters that were quite prepared to drop a few points where necessary to ensure a badge but to also remain within their grade.

F Open is ungraded so at least that problem is alleviated.

If at the end of the day, only three f openers turned up, then I'm sure that they would all shoot to the best of their ability and they will know if they really deserved a badge or not.

I have been to quite a few shoots over the years where fullbore C grade have been handed prizes left, right and centre and never a word said, all about promoting the sport.

Cheers
Danny

Barry Davies wrote:Ah Alan,
Since you mentioned it we are not welcome at Castlemaine as you well know, now how far do you want to persue that?
And further I can remember the time when certain FO shooters insisted on 3 badges if they were to attend any PM-- remember!!
Bugger me, you try to stimulate some worthwhile discussion which will hopefully stimulate ( particularly ) FO and all you want to do is drag up !!!!

Barry,

I know very little about your relationship with Castlemaine, have no recollection of insisting on a general minimum of 3 badges, and your criticism of Castlemaine is still unfair. Do you expect them to offer 3 badges after having fields of 2 shooters for the last 3 years????

PS: Just remembered the 3 badge requirement for the Vic F-Open series in 2006-8, but that was in return for a guaranteed attendance, with a penalty clause to compensate the host club. There is no such guaranteed attendance for PMs generally. So its not relevant to this discussion.

Danny,

In fairness to Castlemaine, I think you're going to have to give them a list of names prior to the shoot and ask them to put on additional badges on that basis. Given what's happened over the last 3 years, I'd be offering one badge too.

Good luck

Might see you at the October DRA Teams (another commitment I forgot to mention!).

Alan

Whoa guys,

This was just about getting discussion and interest going.

Surely, we are above personal differences.

At this stage, I must advise that I won't be there this year, too many family commitments, however, I would love to be there.

Alan, since I started this, if Castlemaine RC, could let me know the cost of two extra f open badges, then I donate them.

Now, how about some f open shooters?

another chicken/egg buster we did in s.a. was to guarantee clubs a certain attendance of f open shooters back in the day.
more than once this got the ball rolling, with the clubs rising to the occasion and with the shooters rising to the occasion.
offering to buy badges for clubs has met with mixed success.
one club happily accepted the offer, and things turned around.
another, after initially accepting the offer, did a backflip and refused to run open at all that year.
good food is always a drawcard. this often puts rural clubs at an advantage.
keep safe,
bruce.

speaking of catering, i am sure that hearty underpants soup in the catering zone would attract entries from far and wide.
keep safe,
bruce.

bruce moulds wrote:speaking of catering, i am sure that hearty underpants soup in the catering zone would attract entries from far and wide.
keep safe,
bruce.

Its very noble of you to try to introduce some humour Bruce, but you might need to explain that one more fully....

Alan, do you really want to know...it may be best left alone.

Lynn Otto wrote::shock: Alan, do you really want to know...it may be best left alone.

Is Bruce allowed anywhere near the kitchen at Lower Light?

Alan,

I can't see other than what you've said being disingenuous & insulting, considering the precision of the circumstance I defined.

John

johnk wrote:Alan,

I can't see other than what you've said being disingenuous & insulting, considering the precision of the circumstance I defined.

John

Not sure where you're coming from John. Where did you precisely define a circumstance? And who am I being disingenuous and insulting to?

Alan

PS: Looking back over the thread, are you referring to Barrie's response to your anecdote about your son?

Danny are you sitting down they cost about 12 bucks so as you would understand having 2many badges could kill an OPM financially
As Bruce mentioned before they can always make more badges if Nos. dictate and forward them on.
RB

Thanks Raven, I'm glad you advised me to sit down, $12 each!!! I had better check with my accountant to see if the business can afford double that

Cheers
Danny

Our badges cost $16 last year and seem to go up every year. That's the cost of buying local .

I think the best way of awarding late badges is to have prepared voucher notes with the club letterhead, which can be filled in, signed, and awarded at the normal time.

Alan,

yes, I made a crosseyed mistake for which I apologise. I misread that you were the author of the post I took offence to, but as you say, It was Barry.

Sincerest apologies.

Barry,

When second is also last, a badge is meaningless in my opinion. When the number of badges on offer (presented) equal or exceed the number of attendees in the grade or division, the concept of competition becomes meaningless & performance is demeaned.

John