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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:41 am
by IanP
Hangfire wrote:IanP wrote:Hello Bruce,
Can you please confirm what you stated below, (copy and paste from Sept 15 NSW Queens thread) about blow-offs for the SARA Queens. Sounds good to me but from memory I thought it was until 7.30am.
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Wouldn't this put those who stay or live close to the range at an advantage?
I know a few who will be competing who will drive out each day and who's travel time is over 1 hour.
Unless they have a designated "blow off" prior to the shoot at a time where it is fair and reasonable to
all competitors then it should not be allowed.
I am in favor of a "blow off" period but a more realistic time frame of between 8am -8-30am would seem a fair option.
I'm in agreement that this needs to be incorporated and made official at all our big competitions Australia wide. As far as the time for allowing fouler shots, it needs to be allocated at a reasonable time before the comp starts. I think allowing foulers only prior to 7.00am is too early for most.
Some thought needs to be given to the best way to incorporate this into the days schedule and keep everyone onside.
Those with barrels and training techniques for clean bore shots do not need to participate in the prior to competition blow-off period.
Ian
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:13 pm
by Barry Davies
If the facility was there you would use it whether or not you had the clean barrel technique down pat. Stupid if you didn't.
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:15 pm
by RAVEN
Hi Barry most ranges I have been to don't have a facility
But you are correct if it was available you could use it
Although in briz I choose not to and had confidence in what I was doing
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:23 am
by bruce moulds
loading ammo today.
not as much fun as unloading it!
luckily did some tests yesterday and found that the node had moved.
talk about a last minute wonder.
keep safe,
bruce.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:21 am
by RDavies
I think the issue with fouling shots is very easily sorted on ranges with a separate "zeroing" range. Let the competition proceed as it has done for the last 100 or so years, but at least give us an opportunity to shoot on the zero range for as many fouling shots as needed. I was lucky in that my barrel settled right in after one fouler, but I have had other barrels which just shot random patterns for the first 10 or so shots. Surely it cant hurt to allow people to have some blow of shots on a separate range if they want to do the extra work and drive down to a separate zero range.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:25 pm
by johnk
Rod,
That can be an issue at Belmont, where you are not permitted under the range approvals to shoot before 8:00 & that's the time when the Queens start off.
John
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:04 pm
by bruce moulds
all ammo now loaded. what a relief.
now for the pleasure of unloading it.
see yáll there.
bruce.
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:48 pm
by ecomeat
bruce moulds wrote:loading ammo today.
not as much fun as unloading it!
luckily did some tests yesterday and found that the node had moved.
talk about a last minute wonder.
keep safe,
bruce.
Right-oh, old fella.
No more teasing. Time you came clean about whatever it was that happened.
How about you elaborate at length about what you found, how you fixed it etc etc
And what we can expect from you over the Queens ? How many points start are you giving Raven ? Etc etc etc.......
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:06 pm
by bruce moulds
tony,
don't expect much from me.
I am an old has been.
2 weeks before the queens, my gun started giving vert, which, while not being fantastic, was not bad for a fair while prior.
this coincided with a new batch of powder.
I have never experienced this before, powder seeming to be quite consistent from batch to batch.
this could also be connected with the fact that the throat is a bit longer, and has been chased, giving slightly greater case capacity.
all I could do was a ladder test in the time available, and the node was about 0.5 gn higher than previously. no chance to verify this since and test further.
as far as fixed, we will just have to hope!
what raven and other shooters do is beyond my control, as is what the weather gives each of us during the course of the event.
the way things seem, sometimes what happens to me is also beyond my control, but me is all I can do anything about.
it is all about having fun with friends, and seeing what falls out at the end.
you just have to get that ammo unloaded.
keep safe,
bruce.
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:27 pm
by ecomeat
Jenni H has posted on Facebook that there are 7 in Open and 8 in F/TR for the leadup event. The "mankini man" must be saving himself for the main event

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:36 pm
by TOM
F standard is a no show then?
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:54 pm
by ecomeat
TOM wrote:F standard is a no show then?
Tom,
I am just copying this off Jenni's Facebook page, and its probably just the one photo she took thismorning and put on line. Will attempt to get a "report" from her later tonight. They certainly were taking entries for both A and B Grade in F Standard.
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:07 pm
by bruce moulds
tony,
something looks very odd about those scores.
maybe everyone has rod davies disease. all testing ammo in the leadup
yes, I am saving myself. the queens is like marriage - worth saving yourself for.
keep safe,
bruce.
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:10 pm
by AlanF
I can't get the SARA website. WARA is still keeping their scores secret. Looks like SARA is trying to keep pace with the neighbours! Bruce, what's happening?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:17 pm
by ecomeat