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Hey Dave
My set up shown at the start of this thread wasn't allowed and I had to remove the straps on the base so the plastic was sitting on the rifle.

This topic started on 12th August 2014. About time someone in authority drew a picture of WHAT IS legal and lets get on with shooting for heaven's sake.

They have. It's in a secret document: http://www.nraa.com.au/new-ssrs-version ... -feb-2016/

G'day Tim N,
my primary aim was to have something that didn't touch the rifle in any way. I like to shoot free recoil.
The straps underneath are needed to maintain the shape, but more importantly I think something is needed to stop it getting blown along the mound by a gust of wind.

Rule 3.2.2 of ICFRA infers that the protective cover must be attached to the rifle. " Free standing " covers are not mentioned therefore one would assume them to be illegal. This means that the weight of the cover is included in the overall rifle weight of 8.25 kg.

Barry Davies wrote:Rule 3.2.2 of ICFRA infers that the protective cover must be attached to the rifle. " Free standing " covers are not mentioned therefore one would assume them to be illegal. This means that the weight of the cover is included in the overall rifle weight of 8.25 kg.

Perhaps a small piece of string could be tied from the cover to the rifle thus it would then be attached... Assumptions mean nothing so from a regulatory sense.... Sorry I couldn't help myself.

When will you guys realise that the game is about complying with the rules, not conniving to beat them.

(1) Bob Pedersen, as Tim has said, has judged that freestanding devices do not comply with the SSRs. That was back on page 1 of this thread & subsequently repeated.

(2) Denis's device is being assessed for ICFRA compliance & that outcome should logically colour the local outcome, by which I mean that it would be confusing should local FS & FO shooters be permitted to use it & the latter shooting internationally not. Of course, it's not relevant to F/TR. In ICFRA's respect, the clause personal "tent", not personal tent, will have weightage.

(3) Any device attached to combat conditions is included in rifle weight limits.

(4) If you believe that a device should be approved, then promote it's inclusion in the SSRs through your state association. it's not likely nor reasonable that NRAA should respond to individual or limited whims.

Sorry John. It was said in jest. I wholeheartedly agree with you in your post. Someone will always push the envelope of rulings.

Actually, I wasn't referring to you, but recent previous posts.

As far as the string goes, back in the seventies, single point slings weren't permitted on TR rifles, only those with two attachment points. Nev Madden was a member of the same club as I was but was there to practice for the 300 meter world cup in the States. He was using a single on his "military" class rifle, an Omark specially made for him by the factory when he was challenged on the anchor point rule, whereupon he too a piece of string out of his bag & loosely tied the sling loop to the stock butt - one case where that concept sufficed.

Has anyone used velcro dots to hold a clear sheet onto the scope then drape it down over the loading port and ammo box? Does it affect harmonics or gun tracking and ultimately what happens down range?

Before you rest anything on the scope I would set it up rigidly and add some weights to the scope bell and watch POA move and asses what you are doing. Back further between the mounts not so much and the eyepiece can actually move a bit with no POA movement but at the front of the long tube it is another story. Just consider that the best riflescopes actually have better aiming ability than quality Theodolites. We ask a lot of them. Very long front tube extensions can actually pull the scope noticeably in strong wind and their weight actually changes elevation setting.

JohnK I like you story of the single point sling. I did not know they were taboo in Aust for TR at one stage. Seems incredible because outside the Commonwealth Countries it was the opposite and they would not recognize a double point sling !

Peter Smith.

johnk wrote:
(2) Denis's device is being assessed for ICFRA compliance & that outcome should logically colour the local outcome, by which I mean that it would be confusing should local FS & FO shooters be permitted to use it & the latter shooting internationally not. Of course, it's not relevant to F/TR. In ICFRA's respect, the clause personal "tent", not personal tent, will have weightage.

G'day John. I don't want to be a pest, but just wondering if you've heard anything since.

Denis,

Still doing the ICFRA rounds at the moment. I understand that there is some divergence of opinion so the question is yet to be resolved. Peddo's in a cleft stick here. Because of the closeness of ICFRA & SSR FO rules, you wouldn't want an SSR determination that might ultimately conflict with ICFRA what with 2017 so close.

But should you decide that you want to use be able that device if needed at, say, the Nationals in June, then I can ask NRAA to make an interim determination for you should there be no finalization internationally.

FO shooters still have the ultimate question to decide - should we use our exclusive SSR rules for domestic competition & ICFRA internationally, or should we asked to be judged by ICFRA rules, which generally are not changed other than by national delegates at a meeting during the Worlds every four years? Maybe we need to start a thread to discuss the pros & cons - and believe me there are points for & against. It's certainly not the case that all ICFRA nations shoot by ICFRA rules domestically, the States being the exception that comes to mind.

John

johnk wrote:Denis,

Still doing the ICFRA rounds at the moment. I understand that there is some divergence of opinion so the question is yet to be resolved. Peddo's in a cleft stick here. Because of the closeness of ICFRA & SSR FO rules, you wouldn't want an SSR determination that might ultimately conflict with ICFRA what with 2017 so close.

But should you decide that you want to use be able that device if needed at, say, the Nationals in June, then I can ask NRAA to make an interim determination for you should there be no finalization internationally.

FO shooters still have the ultimate question to decide - should we use our exclusive SSR rules for domestic competition & ICFRA internationally, or should we asked to be judged by ICFRA rules, which generally are not changed other than by national delegates at a meeting during the Worlds every four years? Maybe we need to start a thread to discuss the pros & cons - and believe me there are points for & against. It's certainly not the case that all ICFRA nations shoot by ICFRA rules domestically, the States being the exception that comes to mind.

John

Thanks John your a gentleman. An interim determination would be great if possible. I'd like to be as well prepared as the rules allow for rain at the Nats. Seems to be a cold and wet time of the year.

Can I leave it until the end of April? Maybe we;ll have the full deal by then.