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2209 loads?
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:04 pm
by timothi3197
Good evening all,
I have been given nearly four kilos of 2209, does anybody have a sucessful load for .308 with 155 grain Dyers and OFV military cases.(I see 2209 is listed in the SSR's)
My normal powder is 2208.
Kind regards, Tim
2209 loads?
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:48 pm
by bainp
Tim
There probably are no successful loads using .308 155g projectiles and 2209 powder. The powder is just too slow for this weight of projectile. In .308W you need to use 210g projectiles and heavier for this powder to start burning properly and to develop decent pressures.
Find someone who is shooting match rifle and sell the powder to them or shoot F Class Open with heavy bullets and fast twist barrel.
Regards - Phil
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:34 pm
by timothi3197
Thanks Phil, I will use it up in my .303 and .300 winmag. I would have loved to be able to use it up in .308 but as you and a couple of others have all said it is too slow for the 155's. Thanks for the help.
Kind regards,
Tim
2209
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:30 pm
by jerryatric
hi, are u using the new dyers or the old ? i once tryed 2209 in a 308 with 168gr mk,s , no good at all though did manage to shoot 5 shots under 1/2 inch group at 100 yards - i won my first ssaa medal award doing this experement . but was useless at the 300 yard range .
Re: 2209 loads?
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:16 pm
by bruce talty
timothi3197 wrote:Good evening all,
I have been given nearly four kilos of 2209, does anybody have a sucessful load for .308 with 155 grain Dyers and OFV military cases.(I see 2209 is listed in the SSR's)
My normal powder is 2208.To slow AR 2209 i have been using Ar2208 but have just changed to AR 2206H 45.2grainds 155HBC Dyer CCI Br2 ADI 184 grain cases had a good shoot on F Class open target @ 300yds Saturday got 98 first shoot and 109 out of 110. 3 down for the day. Bruce
Kind regards, Tim
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:54 pm
by timothi3197
Thanks Bruce,
Good results you would have to be happy,
I have a bit of 2208 left but am down to my last few old style Dyers, if I wish to keep going will have to switch to the new HBC, that load would move fairly well. I am still considering what I am going to do, I may give F class another few months we will see.
I was using 2206 before 2208 but reckon will go to 2206H when I run out as it will do more for me over a range of calibers.
Kind regards and thanks,
Tim
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:55 pm
by johnk
Tim,
I've found that, apart from seating adjustment necessary because of the nose shape, the old Dyers & the HBC are about identical - including loads.
John
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:03 pm
by timothi3197
Thanks John, that will make the starting point easier,
Kind regards,
Tim
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:02 pm
by bruce talty
timothi3197 wrote:Thanks Bruce,
Good results you would have to be happy,
I have a bit of 2208 left but am down to my last few old style Dyers, if I wish to keep going will have to switch to the new HBC, that load would move fairly well. I am still considering what I am going to do, I may give F class another few months we will see.
I was using 2206 before 2208 but reckon will go to 2206H when I run out as it will do more for me over a range of calibers.
Kind regards and thanks,
Tim
G'Day Tim i forgot to say i am coating my bullets with Tungsten Disulfide so you may have to start your load below 45 grains my barrel is a MADDCO 1X14" twist 3 groove.308 BR Barrel 28 "long using ADI cases 184 grains and the barrel has 1814 rounds through it and i am still using the same dummy seating bullet that i made when i first set the bullet seating depth.Bruce