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pedestal or bipod?

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:24 pm
by whippy
i know this subject would have been discussed before, but i looked back and didn't find any posts. my question is, using a 308 is a pedestal a better choice than a bipod? fclass shooters at my club tell me a pedestal ( REST) is the way to go. i would like to hear others opinions.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:03 pm
by Southcape
I guess you will need to start with what discipline you wish to shoot.

F Standard, or F/TR

You can shoot Standard with a bi pod, but you can't shoot F/TR with a front rest.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:41 pm
by AlanF
Whippy,

For F-Open I would recommend a pedestal, because they prevent the fore-end from jumping sideways. For F-Std however, even though the same pedestal advantage exists, there is a 2Kg weight dispensation for bipods, which in my opinion swings the advantage to the bipod.

Alan

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:22 pm
by Southcape
I looked at the fact he would be using a .308 and thought..hmm he wouldn't be shooting F Open with that. But I have been wrong before! :D

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:15 am
by macguru
F-Std Bipod or Pedestal (about half & half)
F TR Bipod (but not shot anywhere near me)
F Open Bipod or Pedestal (almost all pedestal)

cheers Andrew

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:26 am
by Quick
I shoot F-Std of a Bipod, albeit its an Atlas bipod so its cost the same as some front rests.

I dont have any issues with it myself. And seem to score ok in F-Std.

Btw, I thought F/TR wasent shot here in australia under NRAA??

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:18 am
by whippy
thanks for the thoughts, i forgot to mention i shoot f standard. i will try both and see what happens. much appreciated.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:50 pm
by Southcape
We will know before the month is out if F/TR will be officially adopted in AU.

I believe all new shooters should know there is another discipline out there, and that F Standard is only shot in Australia.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:01 pm
by John E
AlanF wrote:Whippy,

For F-Open I would recommend a pedestal, because they prevent the fore-end from jumping sideways. For F-Std however, even though the same pedestal advantage exists, there is a 2Kg weight dispensation for bipods, which in my opinion swings the advantage to the bipod.

Alan


????
FO = 10kg rifle & rifle doesn't jump sideways on a pedestal rest.
FS = 10 kg including bipod, but rifle jumps sideways. Where is the advantage?

John

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:24 pm
by Fireman_DJ
I use a Harris bi-pod and it doesn't jump at all. Infact, if the grass is thin and the dirt soft then it starts to dig holes after a number of shots.

I'm sure Quick with his Atlas bi-pod would say the same.

Just have to use it right. Load it up and not let it just sit there and you'll be fine.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:30 pm
by Quick
John,

When you use proper bipod technique ie, load up correctly, the rifle will not jump. But, you must load the bipod up. If not, then yes rifle jumps.

Atlas Bipod makes it very simple to use correct bipod techniques, so does a Harris.

I shoot at my F-Class off a bipod and also for 400m Fly and do my laod development with my bipod. Very handy peice of kit.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:44 pm
by John E
Thanks fellas -- I didn't know. I just haven't been doing it right.

John

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:48 pm
by Quick
All good mate.

What sorta bipod do you have?

If its a Davies bipod, not sure if they are able to be loaded up per se.... You do need some flex in them to load it up but you dont want to much that it slides.

Read this article for more info - http://www.accurateshooter.com/shooting ... rom-bipod/

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:46 pm
by John E
Thanks again fellas -- I have to back out of this conversation with an apology to both of you --- I'm not a newcomer to FS and you're both being helpful. When we bump into one another, tell me I owe you a beer.
For the record, I use a Davies bipod, and it works very well. The rifle does jump sideways, but so what? Just put it back on target and pull another good shot and it's all good.

John

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:41 pm
by Southcape
John,

If you go left off target, you are using too much shoulder
If you go off right off target you are using too little shoulder

The above plus the angle you are laying behind the bi pod all makes a difference.