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indexing primers

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:19 am
by bruce moulds
has anyone found any benefit to accuracy by indexing primers.
if there is no runout, it probably doesn't matter.
i do not want to invest in a custom indexing tool, unless it becomes necessary to be competitve.
can anyone recommend one primer indexing tool over all others?
keep safe,
bruce.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:49 am
by AlanF
Okay Bruce, what is primer indexation??? Some sort of annual price increase of primers? Poking them with your finger? Sorting the boxes in alphabetical order? :D

BTW April Fools day was a fortnight ago... :D

I know - this is a cunning SARA Teams plan to make the other states think they're missing something. :D

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:36 am
by IanP
Hey Bruce, my Barnard (3 lugs) indexes the primers right in the middle of my chamber and the firing pin hasn't missed hitting one yet!

Seriously though, I dont know what you mean unless you are on about unifying primer pockets and aligning flash holes? The only indexation I can think of is with auto loading turret presses.

Ian

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:45 am
by bruce moulds
ian,
are you using 3 legged or 4 legged anvils?
keep safe,
bruce.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:13 am
by IanP
bruce moulds wrote:ian,
are you using 3 legged or 4 legged anvils?
keep safe,
bruce.

This is like a guessing contest but I guess the 'old master' will reveal all sometime soon. I use CCI primers both SR and LR and they have 3 legs on their anvil.

So I guess this is some sort of black powder thing and you carefully rotate all the primer anvils to an index, like due north? I bet I have guessed the answer and now know what inexing primers is all about, or maybe not.

Ian

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:32 am
by AlanF
Bruce,

Before you go too far, read this. Ron Boyd does not ream primer pockets or flash holes :shock: .

Alan

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:46 am
by bruce moulds
for too long i have been giving away secrets (reducing advantages) to grasshoppers.
this one i might have to keep under wraps.
the only hints are that 2 x 3 = 6 whereas 3 x 4 = 12, and that cci br primers have the little indent in them to get t.d.c., or wherever else is best. also the use of a small file can come in handy.
keep safe,
bruce.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:40 pm
by Peter Marum
Stop it! otherwise you may go blind. :lol:

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:22 pm
by bruce moulds
peter,
come to think of it, the eyesight isn't too good!
thanks for the advice.
keep safe,
bruce.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:57 pm
by johnk
I index mine. CCI BR2 with the 450s on top of them to the right, RWS next, followed by BR4 & PMC at the left end of the shelf.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:23 am
by Norm
I use to file a mark in the rim of .222 cases to index the rounds as I fired them. It did seem to improve short range group size in a factory rifle.
To consider indexing primers is taking things just a bit far. Not even sure you could do it?

To consider indexed feeding in an F-Class match might be a mistake. While you are taking great care to feed the round into the chamber at just the right orientation, you might just miss a wind change.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:44 am
by bruce moulds
we could discuss the merits of annealing primers,
but someone might try it and lose an eye!
keep safe,
bruce.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:18 pm
by BATattack
i know i dont want to loose my massive advantage but i feel i should share that after extensive testing ive had the best results with indexing the shiny side out :wink:

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:48 am
by Ovenpaa
BATattack wrote:i know i dont want to loose my massive advantage but i feel i should share that after extensive testing ive had the best results with indexing the shiny side out :wink:
Duly noted, I will have to try that myself, I always thought the shiny side looked nicer anyway.... :lol: