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Moly loads
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:40 pm
by flatlina
I've been running 46 gns 2206H in my .308 with a 155 HBC. I'm thinking of giving some moly ones a try and was wondering how much more powder is needed to achieve similar FPS. The rifle is a Savage 10FP with a 24" barrel. The first loads I tried was with some of the original 2206H I bought when it first came out, this gave me an average of 3022 FPS. I chroned some loads with a new batch of powder and the average was 2932 FPS. I loaded up some moly pills and their avaerage was 2891 FPS.
Regards
john
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:51 pm
by Quick
I dont run moly but may try it when I have my dedicated FS rifle built.
From what I understand, it lesses the friction in the barrel, you have to use more powder to get same velocities as non-moly but you can use a higher max load to get even more velocity then say a load thats max in your barrel thats a non-moly load. But you use much more powder to get it.
Id try 2208 before you switch to moly. I run a 26" barrel with 46.2gr 2208 and get 2950fps from it. You could very well get better velocities with 2208 then 2206H. Its worth a shot at any rate I think.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:52 pm
by OuttaAmmo
Sounds like your barrel is getting loose...

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:45 pm
by flatlina
I've tried 2208 and I get better velocities and accuracy with the 2206H. The original 2206H powder was very old and I think the new stuff doesn't give the same velocities. I realise you need more powder but was wondering if anyone had been thru the same . I do still have a fair amount of 2206 left tho.
Regards
john
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:48 pm
by Quick
John, Id try some Moly then. But as long as you get 2950 to 2970fps, you will be fine for 1000yds.
Let us know your results mate

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:29 am
by DaveMc
John - what you have seen is absolutely normal. Batches of powder can easily be 50+ fps different (sometimes more). Moly normally requires a bit more charge for same velocity - but also don't rely 100% on chrono. They can be finicky beasts. Work up your load to the accuracy node again.
Dave
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:18 am
by Barry Davies
My experience with Moly ( years ago ) was a loss of about 30 f/s.
46 gn of 2206H is Recommended maximum and depending upon your Speed/load curve shape you would probably need about 4/10 to regain that 30 f/s. However in a 24" barrel I rather doubt that you will see any benefit. Much better with a 28" minimum barrel and lighter loads ( 45 gn or less )
Barry