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Barnard FO Trigger

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:21 pm
by MROFD
I have been using a standard Barndard Trigger in my FO Rifle. I have found my trigger a little unreliable when I shoot it at the lighter weights required for FO.
I also experienced an unexpected automatic fire when I cocked the bolt recently at Coona, lucky for me I still came up with a 12 O'clock (4) @ 1000yds. Better than a miss I suppose. :roll:
I had no real signs of this prior to the shot, which concerns me somewhat.
I rinsed/cleaned the trigger after this range, and have not had any signs of the same problem since.
I was curious as to what others were using on their Barnards actions.

Matt

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 4:17 pm
by saum2
I'm sure light/different springs for FO are available for the Barnard trigger. your gunsmith would know where to get them. Or NZ/Barnard.
Geoff

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:21 pm
by mike H
I think mine may have been a bit heavy,over 1.5 Kgs,but that was what I had to use in GB last June.Personally I think very light triggers are a mental crutch.Apart from mentioning that heat build up and warmer lubrication affect trigger weight,the best I can say is see a gunsmith.
Mike.

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:38 pm
by IanP
Matt, I bought a light spring set for my Barnard trigger but never bothered fitting it. They are available for those that like very light trigger pressure. You may have the sear engagement too fine and be using it as a single stage trigger.

I have my trigger set at 12ozs and as a two stage trigger and find it ultra reliable and smooth as silk. Setting the trigger for two stage operation means I can use the first stage pressure as a 'get ready' then the second stage is 'go'!

To each their own but why not try increasing the sear engagement by backing off, (anti-clockwise)the front screw half a turn! The manual states cock the gun then turn the sear engagement screw until the action fires. Then back off the screw half a turn, (for light trigger pressure) and you should be set.

If you need a copy of the Barnard trigger manual I can email a copy to you or you can download from the Barnard website. http://www.barnard.co.nz/target-trigger.htm

Ian

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:48 pm
by Matt P
Matt
There is also a Jewell trigger hanger for P actions. I use the light spring kit and find it very good.

Regards
Matt P

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:31 am
by MROFD
Thanks for the advise guys, I may opt for the Jewell Trigger soon.
MR

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:29 pm
by Paul Janzso
Matt save your money and get a Barnard light trigger kit and ask Phill to install both springs.
He has done my triggers and they are at 3-4 oz and have never failed.
Also make sure not to get fluids into the trigger mechanism as it can help lead to failures.
Cheers
Paul

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:05 am
by DaveMc
I think there may be another complication with adding the Jewell too. Not sure on this so Matt P might be able to help out but I believe the Jewell hangs in a different spot so some stock work might be required.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:15 pm
by KHGS
Jewel hangers on Barnard "P" actions put the trigger too far back from the Barnard trigger position to make their installation practical on a rifle inleted to a stock to suit a standard trigger position. The reverse is also the case.
So not practical to retrofit. As Paul said the light pull spring kits work very well.
Keith H.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:35 pm
by MROFD
KHGS wrote:Jewel hangers on Barnard "P" actions put the trigger too far back from the Barnard trigger position to make their installation practical on a rifle inleted to a stock to suit a standard trigger position. The reverse is also the case.
So not practical to retrofit. As Paul said the light pull spring kits work very well.
Keith H.

Thanks for the heads-up Keith....

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:36 pm
by MROFD
Paul Janzso wrote:Matt save your money and get a Barnard light trigger kit and ask Phill to install both springs.
He has done my triggers and they are at 3-4 oz and have never failed.
Also make sure not to get fluids into the trigger mechanism as it can help lead to failures.
Cheers
Paul

Cheers PJ :wink: