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scopes
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:31 pm
by mick6220
Does anyone know anything about rhe monarch 8-32x50ed sf m np? Any help would be greatly appreciated cheers.
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:12 pm
by Brad Y
Is that the nikon monarch?
If so I have never seen one on the firing line. Would stay with the main scopes, weaver T series, sightron SIII, Nightforce BR etc
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:41 pm
by mick6220
Yeah it is. The reviews I've read are very mixed, but yeah I'll listen to you and give it a miss then I think. Also do you know what power is optimal for 900 meters on a 308?
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:31 pm
by Quick
If you have a Weaver T24, you can't go wrong I think. Good alround scope for FS.
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:42 pm
by Brad Y
8-32 power is about right for f class in my mind. In summer when the mirage cranks up you can back your power off if you want. But with 32 you will be fine. There really isnt an optimal. Some used fixed 24 powers, some I have seen with 8-80 power march scopes or 10-50 power sightrons. Its all about repeatability in tracking with f class scopes. Weaver, Sightron, Leupold, Nightforce and March have proven themselves. Other brands have tried but I havent seen any more successfully show that they are up to the constant winding up and down. Even some of the brands I just mentioned I have seen fail. They are all mechanical items and arent made to last forever so buy something new with warranty so in case something stuffs up you can send it off for warranty repair.
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:33 pm
by John23
Look at the Nikons elevation.
If memory serves me correctly they do mot have the adjustment to get the bullet out there.
I have a sightron S3 8-32. Brilliant scope!
Next I want a S2 36 fixed power for a 22lr project
JH

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:59 am
by macguru
I use my sightron 8-32 at 32 about 99% of the time.
can see 6mm bullet holes in the white at 300m, its enough mag to pick where in the x ring you want to aim. Sure i would like a march or nightforce as well, but the sightron gets the job done....
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:56 pm
by mick6220
They need to have the 1/8 moa adjustments to hey?
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:07 pm
by Brad Y
They dont HAVE to, but its desirable.
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:25 am
by macguru
When i started f class a couple of years ago i was told nobody needed 1/8 clicks, i would now say thats wrong, they are preferable. (of course you can aim off a little)
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:58 am
by Barry Davies
A 1/8 Minute graduation is not much good to you unless you have a 1/4 moa or better grouping rifle, or you can read wind changes to 1/8 moa

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:12 am
by macguru
1/8 moa reduces the chances of 'overcorrecting' the circle of error at the target
a lot of rifles group around 1/3 to 1/4 moa, both mine do at the moment
Barry knows nobody can pick 1/8 moa wind shifts

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:30 pm
by Barry Davies
1/8 moa = 20mm at 600 yards and 33 mm at 1000yds.
Cross hairs would cover more than that. I really doubt anybody could pick a group shift of 1/8 moa at those distances. Maybe 300 yds it might be useful to centre a group from a 1/4 moa or less rifle.
For those of us who screw the wind changes, a 1/8 clicker is positively a PITA particularly coaching.
The wind ( and elevation ) knobs on a BR scope are so cluttered up with lines and arrows and numbers it gets very confusing and moreso with only 6 moa per rotation of the knob --recipe for disaster in high winds.
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:12 pm
by bruce moulds
1/8 on the elevation turret is good, but 1/4 on the weather turret is also good.
keep safe,
bruce.
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:17 pm
by DannyS
Go the March 5-50, nice clear markings, 1/8th clicks,,10 moa per rotation.
Cheers
Danny