OzFclass

Sometimes I despair of ever learning to read the wind .... I guess i am learning but , I was just wondering, has anyone else thought of this:

A system of wifi linked directional anemometers, say mounted on the flag poles at the correct heights for the range being shot, talking to central computer display linked to a 'heads up' readout in a scope so that the aiming mark moves with the wind data ....

Thats not cheating, is it ??

Not if you're shooting by yourself....

macguru wrote:Thats not cheating, is it ??

Not sure - I'd go ahead and try it.....

I'd have to hire Dmitri K (HEXTA) to build it, i'm just the ideas man with the BSc

macguru wrote:I'd have to hire Dmitri K (HEXTA) to build it, i'm just the ideas man with the BSc

You'll need to put the money up front just to cover the possibility that it won't be allowed .

Any chance of adding a measure of vertical in the atmosphere?

I thought the Navy has had a similar system for years. (not the with the directional anemometers mounted on the flag poles though).

Isn't it called fire-control.

Just need to modify the front rest and bags to take computer controlled motors and you could sit in the bar sipping a lager while you manipulated the remote control unit.

Ah! I see a problem with reloading, but, that could be solved with semi-auto rifle with a 12 shot magazine.

No electronic devices on the mound might put the kybosh on this idea

Apart from scoring computers !!!

obviously its just an idea and you could not use it in an actual competition, but i am sure it could be done from a technical standpoint. I did a google search and pretty quickly found a link to someone who was building a 2D windflow model in a commercial agricultural hothouse using linked directional anemometers...

http://public.wsu.edu/~sjwang/0403a.pdf

Also, I agree a 3d component would be good to allow for elevation shear (did i get the name right?)

Macguru, the banter on this site is all good fun, and of course what you have suggested although not legal in competition would be a great training device particularly for the coaches of international teams. This has been done before and I daresay it is going on in secret. I was not kidding by suggesting measurement of the elevation shear. Correct.

We could take this a few steps further, like combining it with piggybacked electronic targets to add a bullet speed calculations at the target. Couple this with muzzle velocity and you can have a complete analysis tool for weather, rifle, components and shooter technique; and a data bank source for future retrieval.

Install this gear on the major ranges and people could tap into it with simulation software like Peter Smiths to build their skills and not be disadvantaged by local knowledge.

Have it on a big screen at major events and spectators could see a competitor see the wind change or miss it. Particularly if digital cameras were displaying flags and the target for impact. The possibilities are in fact achievable and could add a new dimension to progressing shooting as a sport. But I certainly would not allow shooters on the mound access to the information. The market for kids who play computer games is huge, and it could be a way of drawing them towards the sport. Its taken a while for a few old boys to use electronic targets, but they are keen to use them when they can no longer pull them. . Sometimes its hard to get people on the bike, let alone press the pedals.

If you have a copy of Rifle Accuracy Facts, Harold Vaughan talks about Walter Watt’s electronic vane devices (vanes attached to potentiometers) where he linked three of them in parallel to an indicator mounted on his bench. That was in 1960.

williada wrote:Macguru, the banter on this site is all good fun, and of course what you have suggested although not legal in competition would be a great training device particularly for the coaches of international teams. This has been done before and I daresay it is going on in secret. I was not kidding by suggesting measurement of the elevation shear. Correct.

We could take this a few steps further, like combining it with piggybacked electronic targets to add a bullet speed calculations at the target. Couple this with muzzle velocity and you can have a complete analysis tool for weather, rifle, components and shooter technique; and a data bank source for future retrieval.

Install this gear on the major ranges and people could tap into it with simulation software like Peter Smiths to build their skills and not be disadvantaged by local knowledge.

Have it on a big screen at major events and spectators could see a competitor see the wind change or miss it. Particularly if digital cameras were displaying flags and the target for impact. The possibilities are in fact achievable and could add a new dimension to progressing shooting as a sport. But I certainly would not allow shooters on the mound access to the information. The market for kids who play computer games is huge, and it could be a way of drawing them towards the sport. Its taken a while for a few old boys to use electronic targets, but they are keen to use them when they can no longer pull them. . Sometimes its hard to get people on the bike, let alone press the pedals.

If you have a copy of Rifle Accuracy Facts, Harold Vaughan talks about Walter Watt’s electronic vane devices (vanes attached to potentiometers) where he linked three of them in parallel to an indicator mounted on his bench. That was in 1960.

Well said Williada well said.

There are modern targeting systems in use today that measure and correct for wind strength and direction along the entire path of the bullet. http://www.accurateshooter.com/optics/new-wind-reading-lidar-laserscope/
More simpler systems such as "Tracking Point" lock onto the target. http://tracking-point.com/
Then there is the self guided bullet! http://rt.com/usa/172148-darpa-exacto-guided-bullet/

I'm not real interested in these things as they take the skill and fun out of shooting.