OzFclass

I have just plugged one of my 7mm barrels and filled it with boretech carbon remover to leave overnight, then scrub in the morning. What do people think of this stuff vs hoppes vs carbie/injector cleaner for this method ?


Also, when the barrel is on the gun if I wirebrush a few strokes and push a patch (#9) through the bore its always a bit black, then repeat, a bit more back , and so on . I get the feeling if you are too obsessive with this you could go on too long. ?? I usually stop after 5 -6 goes !

Andrew

I'm happy with using Subaru carbie cleaner at the end of a day during a multi day competition & their upper cylinder spray when the rifle needs to go to bed at the end of a shoot. I run a patch of Ballistol down the bore after cleaning & dry(ish) it out with one patch when I resume shooting.

I use Super Cheap Auto carby spray. Probably not the most environmentally friendly product on the market but it does a fantastic job. Follow up with BT eliminator and then sweets oil to store.

You mean you spray down the bore and can then just PATCH OUT lots of carbon ? or do you still scrub with a bronze brush ??

macguru wrote:You mean you spray down the bore and can then just PATCH OUT lots of carbon ? or do you still scrub with a bronze brush ??

Dry bronze brush first. Then two wet patches of carbon cleaner, followed by nylon brushing, then dry patch out. BT eliminator after that. It works well for me.

I am sure it works with a bronze brush ....

I tried the carbon remover and it didnt just patch out carbon, so i have filled the bore with number 9 for a few hrs and ill try later, with and without brushing. If that does not work i will just call it clean and move on Ill try carbie cleaner too ...

I read in a USA shooters magazine that pure gum turpentine (the one artists use)will remove carbon.It's worth a try.
Peter

For me the BT Carbon remover DID NOT do a great job , Hoppe's no9 does a better job of removing carbon in my barrels.

Try some KG1 on a bronze brush. It seemed to get my bore spotless.

I have used (and continue to use) Boretech Eliminator and Boretech C4 Carbon remover and they work well (the bronze brush comes out spotlessly clean after using Boretech C4 Carbon remover).

I have yet to find a method that removes Carbon without a bronze brush. I have tried. I use Boretech borestix and ensure the handle bearings are well lubricated. I have marked the aluminium collar with a texta to ensure I can see that the rod is rotating in both directions.

You can also try the boiling water method of trying to 'soften' the carbon. I know most of my club members use it and claim great success. You'll need a funnel, tube and spout, some thick gloves and a heap of care. 2-3L of boiling water should do it.

I'm personally looking at making a steam cleaner nozzle on a 40" stainless tube. I've seen one mention of a steam cleaner, but no info about who makes it. The Pedersoli ones are for large bore black powder guns. I'm not sure how successful that will be anyway as I have tried steam cleaning a muzzle brake and the carbon just hung on, staring me down, taunting me.

A light touch up with KG2 on a patch (on a normal spike jag) does a good job on the throat. Beware of the non-rotating rod and easy does it. Focus on the chamber end for 10 or so strokes at a time. It's easier and cleaner than Iosso or JB, etc pastes.

If you don't have a bore scope, buy one.

I wonder also if the use of HBN (Hexagonal Boron Nitride) to coat the barrel and your projectiles may reduce the amount of carbon baking on to your bore. I have not yet experimented with this, but would like to.

Steve

I find that very hard to believe Max...
I remember reading about someone using a coffee steamer with a flexi tube attached directed down the barrel, might have been on this forum a while back.
A Bore scope will tell you if anything works, some think a clean patch is a clean bore.

well i have put some nulon pro strength spray carbie cleaner down the bore and will see how that goes after a few hrs

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W.C.Fields

Andrew,
That TrueFlite 280AI barrel that I got from you had 400 rounds through it ....according to the original owner ......and as discussed on another thread was in a pretty sorry state re carbon deposited (seen through a Hawkeye borescope).
As part of my initial attempts to clean it out, I bought a proper boreplug from Sinclairs and soaked it in Boretech Carbon remover, for a week in total.
After two or three days, I tipped the BT out, patched it, checked it etc.and found that it hadn't even marked it.
Plugged it back up, poured the BT back in for another 2 or 3 days........same.....Nothing !
After a total of 7 days, still the same result......carbon still 100% firmly embedded.
Boiling water didnt work, so it took an abrasive to clean it properly.

ecomeat wrote:it took an abrasive to clean it properly.

On a bronze brush?

Tony, that might have been 350 rounds, sorry if i mislead you

I think the best way to get out carbon is with a bronze brush (on a core of bronze wire not steel) I am beginning to think that the people saying you can patch carbon out with chemicals alone are just kidding themselves, or confusing powder residue with deposited carbon. Also, hoppes number 9 and a bronze brush is good enough but i will try the carbie cleaner again with a dirtier barrel. The boretech carbon remover did the least good.

The other thing to consider is that a little carbon in the grooves wont hurt and may actually help. Just not too much..., and not enough to develop a ring thats for sure. As you said Tony removing the carbon did not help that barrel in question at all....

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W.C.Fields

First! This issue comes up regularly & I have already explained how to deal with carbon! So I suggest you all check the archives. However I will reiterate two points, no amount of carbon is helpful & anyone who thinks a "little" is good is fooling themselves. The other point I will also reiterate is that carbon from Australian powders CANNOT be removed chemically, a bronze brush must be used & it must be removed on the day it is deposited in the barrel.
Keith H.