Rosedale OPM - Poll

[AlanF]

At a meeting today at Rosedale Rifle Range, it was proposed to make some changes to the program of our March OPM. Currently we have 300, 500, 600 on day 1 and 800, 900, 1000 on day 2 (all ranges in yards, all 10 shots) . Some members want the 300 dropped, others want the 1000 dropped, some want both dropped. We also have a 700 mound not currently used at the PM. We decided the best thing to do was to ask the customers, those who regularly attend now, and those who might be tempted to come (e.g. if we don't have that !X-~! 1000yds! ). So here are some options that were suggested, along with the current situation.

[Peter Hulett]

Alan,
We have spoken on this before. Carol and I like 3,5,6 and 8,9,10.
300 is still a test for us TR shooters and 1000 at Rosedale is a test of wind reading skills that you don't get on most other ranges. 700yards is an abomination under ICFRA where you shoot on a 600 metre target and so the aiming mark proportions are a bit skew-whiff. Nevertheless we would turn up regardless of what you shot (within reason).

[AlanF]

Thanks Peter.

More comments welcome.

[Range Rector]

I'm with Peter Hulett!

[Norm]

Alan, I'm not that fussed.
I am just happy that the OPM is on the dates that it is and that I will be able to shoot both days.
Looking forward to it.

[Bindi2]

I hope you do not drop either. By dropping ranges for people who have problems at those ranges you will eventually finish up with only one range shoots. Shooting is about markmanship out to 1000yds in most cases and longer in others. To the nay sayers toughen up and practice the ranges you find difficult and you may become known as a MARKSMAN.

[bartman007]

To the nay sayers toughen up and practice the ranges you find difficult and you may become known as a MARKSMAN.

I think what is good about the poll, is that the OPM organisers are trying to work out what shooters would like to see. If they change the range selection based on the feedback that they receive, that should mean more people turning up on the day.

To ask someone to "toughen up" may have the opposite effect. Especially if they were new to shooting, or just can't read wind all that well.

[Bindi2]

To the nay sayers toughen up and practice the ranges you find difficult and you may become known as a MARKSMAN.

I think what is good about the poll, is that the OPM organisers are trying to work out what shooters would like to see. If they change the range selection based on the feedback that they receive, that should mean more people turning up on the day.

To ask someone to "toughen up" may have the opposite effect. Especially if they were new to shooting, or just can't read wind all that well.

I take from your post that you will have no problem with cutting out the next hard range and so on until only the easy one is left because that is what you have said. The same shooters will more than likely still win so in the end the masses still will not come then the good shooters will give up because there is no challenge on an easy range unless the centre is made smaller so the masses will still miss out.

[Seddo]

There is a good chance this will be the first OPM I will be attending, so far my home range is only 700y so I don't want to miss out on 1000y windy or not. If I get bugger all on target because my wind reading skills need work so be it!

[AlanF]

Mr Bindi,

You are assuming you know why people prefer some distances to others. Maybe you don't.

Also, if you go back to my first post, this thread is for shooters who are either regular attendees at the Rosedale OPM, or those who may attend in future. I seem to remember from an earlier post that you are from WA? I actually drove across the Nullabor for the WARA Queens in 2010 and its quite a long way, so we are very honoured if you are interested in coming here.

Alan

[Bindi2]

Mr Bindi,

You are assuming you know why people prefer some ranges to others. Maybe you don't.

Also, if you go back to my first post, this thread is for shooters who are either regular attendees at the Rosedale OPM, or those who may attend in future. I seem to remember from an earlier post that you are from WA? I actually drove across the Nullabor for the WARA Queens in 2010 and its quite a long way, so we are very honoured if you are interested in coming here.

Alan

Maybe i do. I was around when snap shooting got the axe. My club were good at it they won the WARA Queens one year with 3 men in a four man teams event. Why because they practiced.
I have just got back from the WARA annual general meeting where the removal of the 1000yd from the Queens was raised.
I will attend more shoots Australia wide now that i have retired. I dont consider the drive that long having done it many times and many more by plane.
A certain Aussie said life was not meant to be easy, some Aussies find easy impossible and others only see the challenge. The lowest common denominator maybe PC but is not in the best interest of the sport.
I agree that it is a club matter choose wisely there are leaders for all and noise for a few.

[MCLE]

My son and l are new to the sport so every range is a challenge to us and we try to attend as many prize meetings as possible.But I was at a comp on Saturday and we were shooting 300y 500y 600y.A conversation started that to save time only the full bore shooters shoot 300y as Fclass hammer the 300y target And the Fclass shooters make up for not shooting the 300y by having more shots at the other ranges as the Fclass shooters are usully faster than the Full Bore shooters.

[AlanF]

MCLE,

We discussed that very idea last night. Its done at the Vic Champ of Champs and works well. The only thing against it for us is that we like to prolong the 300 a little to allow for latecomers, and also we don't usually get big numbers of TR shooters. But, it may be the best way of keeping the 300 for the TR shooters, so that could happen.

Alan

[John E]

I would like to see 1000yds included, as a lot of people don't often get the opportunity to practice at that distance. That is one of the reasons that I like to attend the Rosedale PM.
800 is a good lead-in to 900 & 1000, and doesn't require a subsequent target change. Perhaps another scenario could be 500, 500, 600, 800, 900, 1000.

John

[bartman007]

I was around when snap shooting got the axe.

Hi Bindi2, you have been around for a while then. I too recall snap shooting, lets bring it back Maybe not as much a challenge for F Class shooters though.

My comments are around getting shooters to the meeting, and if that means having to shoot "easier" distances then so be it. Easy is so subjective: I've had a beating at 600 yards in the past, which was simply due to conditions presented at the time. 1000 yards can be just as easy, based on the conditions presented at the time.

If it means the difference between 50 shooters attending vs 30 shooters, I'd go with the 50. The more we have attend, the better for our sport and the organisers.

The poll seems a good way of getting anonymous input.

I actually selected to shoot 2 x 700 yards, as I don't enjoy the reflected noise from the Tin roof at 1000 yards.

we like to prolong the 300 a little to allow for latecomers

Alan, you may consider starting at 600 yards, then shoot 500 (twice for F Class), and then shoot 300 yards for the TR group.