6.5 Creedmore

[Seddo]

Hi guys,

I was wondering if anyone has anything to do with 6.5 Creedmore?

I have been thinking about questions some of the new shooters have been asking about rifles and it seems the most common one is what calibre? Some of the newer guys haven't loaded before and that forces then to look down the 308 options but with Hornady selling 6.5 Creedmore ammo with 120 and 140gr amax do you think its a good option for someone who wants to come and play F Open without a need to start reloading from the start?

I haven't seen the local price of 6.5CM ammo so I cant comment on that other than to say its 2-3 time cheaper in the USA than Lapua 6.5x47 ammo.

Could a new shooter re-barrel his 308 hunting rifle and buy a case of ammo and start playing F Open? I know a 140gr Amax at 2810 isn't going to be a winner but its the closest thing to F Open ammo off the shelf with decent performance.

[johnk]

Seddo,

I would be a tad shy of any cartridge that was designed essentially to make military style semiautomatics competitive with bolt guns. That's a comment on limitations of the calibre only, not its original application.

I'd reckon that the 6.5 x 47 would be a superior choice.

John

[Seddo]

John,

The 6.5x47 has slightly less case capacity than the 6.5 Creedmore, the only real difference is the primer size that I can see.

The 308, 223 and 303 were all designed as a military cartridges and they are the most common rounds used on the mounds so I don't see the military link as an issue.

[bruce moulds]

the 6.5 creedmoor is the smallest capacity case that can hold enough 2209 to effectively use enough 2209 to drive 140 gn bullets.
the x47 is just too small for this.
interestingly this case is named after the famous creedmoor range, where the yanks wopped pommy azz back in the 1870s.
the name came from the fact that it originally belonged to a farmer called creed, and the paddock was known as creed's moor.
keep safe,
bruce.

[DaveMc]

One of our hosts in the US had one and it was very accurate and smacking gongs at 1400+ yards - looked better vertical than some of our rifles.

It is a beautifully sized case and as Bruce says it is just big enough to take on the 140 class projectiles. I reckon ammo would be a killer though and Brass is an issue (I would resize Lap 308 brass down but this is a bit much for a beginner). You can also purchase ammo for 6.5*47 and 6mmBR as well but $$$??

Beautiful case but is it worth going down this path over a .308???? NRAA Factory 308 ammo will be half the price and twice the barrel life.

But a nice choice among many great ones.

[johnk]

Do not activate fingers when brain is in neutral! Was thinking of the Grendel.

Oops.

[flatlina]

If you were to go with this and wanted to use 140 grain projies what twist rate would be the best?

Regards
jb

[bruce moulds]

jb,
1 turn in 8" would be good.
what the creedmoor is to the x47, so is the super lr to the creedmoor.
the super lr has the advantage of being able to use 243, 260, 7/08, and 308 brass, including small primer pocket.
one pass through a superlr fls die correctly adjusted, and you have perfect brass.
other than American 243 brass, cases might need neckturning, but this simply offers more options.
this cartridge can be easily googled.
hornady offers loads for the creedmoor case which nearly always shoot well.
keep safe,
bruce.

[John23]

http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shoo ... creedmoor/
Link to the 6.5mm shoot out.


I was planning on the creedmore the whole time I was planning my 6.5 build.
When it was time to get the work done I shifted to the x47 lapua as the brass is easier to get and I liked the idea of the small primer pocket.

Reading that article you will see they can all be as effective as each other.


260 AI 40deg is my next 6.5mm and IMO the best even considering the 6.5x284

JH

[DenisA]

How far will they be shooting out to?

I don't really understand the point of going to a less common cartridge for an F - Class beginner that's not reloading.
Affordable and available factory match grade ammo, especially in Australia, for the less common cartridges is going to be expensive and difficult to find LGS with stock........... IMO.

I think the best option for someone looking to get into F-open that doesn't want to reload would be something like a 10 twist .308 using 175 SMK's or 208g Amaxs..................... something like that.

Federal Gold Medal Match isn't cheap, but it always amazes me how regularly it holds .5moa groups at 100m with so many different kinds of factory rifle.

[SENDIT]

Good choice DenisA, and in a few months when they realise half the fun is rolling your own they will have plenty of brass and 308 is an easy, non fiddley very forgiving calibre to learn with

[David]

I have bought both 120gn and 140gn hornady at between $36 to $42 for twenty.they tell you on the back what to reload them with to get same performance

[Seddo]

That's the good things with Hornady 6.5CM ammo, its not a secret formula.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/wp-cont ... edmoor.pdf