Howe heavy is a laminated stock and help for FTR Components

MCLE · Post by **MCLE** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:43 pm

Hi all I'm just wondering howe heavy a laminated stock is. As I'm thinking of getting a rifle made for FTR and making a list of the parts.I don't have a laminated stock so I'm not to shore.l suppose that they are all a little different but it would give me a starting point.As I'm starting to find out getting under the 8.250 KG with a bipod is a little bit of a challenge.But all good fun I can see that you have to spend more $$$$ to get less where waight is concerned.
Thanks Michael H

jasmay · Post by **jasmay** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:24 am

Its a challenge that weight is,nt it!!

It wodl depend on the timbers used in the laminate, I have a soild timber stock on my F-TR rig, it weighs about 1.6KGs, and is VERY light for timber, it actually has a carbon fiber reinforced barrel channel cause its so thing.

A light bipod is key.... The Bipod I made for myself from carbon fiber was 350grams, I left it in the states as one of the guys over there wanted to look at mass prodocing them. I have not heard of a lighter one on the market, and it works. (Silver and Gold at the FCWC)

Given my time again, I would change a few things to get more weight into my barrel, but thats the learning curve.

I am piecing together a new FTR rifle that will be based off a very light yet strong steel action, I dont like the Alloy ones like Panda.

Thankfully the pressure is off as funds are a bit tight after the FCWC.

Enjoy, and keep us posted on which way you go.

MCLE · Post by **MCLE** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:43 am

Thanks for your replays .I think that you are right about the bipod if you can get one under 1/2 KG then it helps heaps.l have one coming that is made of carbon fiber and it is 390 GR so that helps.I was wondering about timber stocks as I have come across one made completely out of carbonfiber and with furniture it comes in at 1 KG but it is still going through trials and it's not the cheapest thing going around so just wondering if it is a huge saving weight wise.And if laminated ones come in at around 1.5 KG then it is a bit of a saving and it all helps.I have done a rough list of what l need and howe heavy it would be if l have left something out or you have some advice please chime in.I have the scopes and the Actions and the Bipod the stock is the carbon fibre one that is still under trials but is looking promising.I don't have the barrel so got the weight of a 30" heavy Palmer off the Border Barrel sight.
Stock...1KG
Scope...1.100KG Night Force 12x42x56
Scope...850 GR March 8x80x56 ....Scope Base 200gr ??? Don't know
Rings....140GR Kelbly's
Bipod....390 GR
Action...1.360 KG Barnard model P
Barrel... 3.400 KG Heavy 30" 308 Border Barrels
with the Night Force it comes in at 7.59 KG .....
And with the March it comes in at 7.34 KG....
Now have l missed out on something as this is new to me.And it seems a little light so advice wouldn't go astray.

jasmay · Post by **jasmay** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:57 am

I see your only allowing yourself with 1kg for stock, but mention 1.5kg for laminate, add a decent butt pad and your probably close to limit.

A level buble, although it does nto weigth much, is essential.

Also, I dont think that barnard weight allows for the rail, and possibly the trigger, mine was a bit heavier than what you have stated from memory.

All in all, you are going about it in the ight manner IMO though!!!

ecomeat · Post by **ecomeat** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:32 am

Michael,
What is the carbon fibre stock that you are considering ? I need to find a stiffer forend for my F Open rig, and there is too much flex in a McMillan F Class stock when it's a 32" x 1.25 straight profile barrel.
Tony

MCLE · Post by **MCLE** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:54 pm

jasmay wrote:I see your only allowing yourself with 1kg for stock, but mention 1.5kg for laminate, add a decent butt pad and your probably close to limit.

A level buble, although it does nto weigth much, is essential.

Also, I dont think that barnard weight allows for the rail, and possibly the trigger, mine was a bit heavier than what you have stated from memory.

All in all, you are going about it in the ight manner IMO though!!!

Thanks for your input Jasmay it all helps. The carbon fibre stock does include a but pad and all furniture.I added 200gr for the rail but you might be right about the trigger l don't know if Barnard include it in there overall weight I am guessing that they may as the model P is sold with there own trigger but you might be right. The stock is Extremely light by all accounts but as l have been told it is still going through trials and the jury is still out to Quote the designer.
At the moment they have one with a carbon fibre stock a Barnard S Action 30 " heavy match grade barrel with a FTR bipod and they say that you could add 2 scopes to it and still be under weight.But the down side is if they go ahead with it it would be well over 2 K in OZ l think being light isn't cheap......

MCLE · Post by **MCLE** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:59 pm

Hi ecomeat PM me.
Thanks Michael H

TOM · Post by **TOM** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:55 pm

Don't forget your bedding block and trigger guard.

MCLE · Post by **MCLE** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:37 pm

Thanks Tom if I go down the path of a carbon fibre stock it includes both of these.
Thanks Michael H