Its Time For A .224-90gr Bullet Limit In TR And F-Standard

RDavies · Post by **RDavies** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:58 am

I have just got an 8" twist 223 barrel, so the 90gn pills will be out for me. I still think allowing 90gn bullets will be the way to go, to help the 223s keep up with the new 155gn 308s. The 90gn wont be huge amounts better than the A max, so those of use who have an 8" barrel wont be suddenly out of the chase.
If they can allow a localy made Copperhead 90gn bullet like they allow the BJD HBCs, then the prices will be similar to 80gn sierras, so cost wont be an issue.
Then there is the 22BR case.I sure wont mind if they allow 22BRs in std class as some have been asking.

M12LRPV · Post by **M12LRPV** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:47 pm

IanP wrote:... Maybe the NRAA should adopt the Canadian concept of a weight limit (91gr) for the 223R cartridge...

Ian

This would also alleviate any issues with the NRAA not being able to supply your favoured projectile.

Malcolm Hill · Post by **Malcolm Hill** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:59 am

Rod
90 gn Copperheads could be worth a try if and when they become available/ legal but it might be worth you checking on the current price of the 80gn Sierra's in relation to the Hornady or Nosler's or the 308 HBC's.
Regards Malcolm.

Woody_rod · Post by **Woody_rod** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:06 am

To be honest, I think all this talk about BC is just that. With the massive difference in recoil, the short ranges seem to be owned by the 223s, with whatever bullets you choose (as long as they shoot well). This shows with both TR and FS.

As I have no personal interest in shooting FS, it maybe makes it easier for me to see things for what they are. I can choose between the 223 and 308 whenever I need to in TR, but stick with the 308 out of habit, and I can't be bothered loading 2 different types of ammo for the one rifle (as a switch barrel).

A good way to test all the "theory" about barrels, bullets, and whatever you like: is to go to a range where you don't know anyone, stand 50 yards back from the firing point and pick which calibre, action and barrel people are using based on their SCORE.

I see people winning that can SHOOT, and can READ conditions. It has a lot less to do with the gear people use. My wife and I intend to just shoot more, that is how we will get better. I don't concern myself much with bullet BC's.

IanP · Post by **IanP** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:39 am

There has been some comment on this thread about 90gr bullets being at the limit of what the 223R can be used with and I tend to agree with most of the comments.

This Tech Staff guy from Sinclair Int who just happens to be their Metallic Reloading Instructor is building himself a new rifle in 6mm/223R. That is a rifle chambered for the 223R case but necked up to 6 mm to enable the use of the higher BC 6mm bullets. He has access in 6mm to bullets with a BC of over 0.500 in 80gr. His range of bullets for this gun span from 70 - 105gr, he is still working on bringing the ES down on the 105gr load.

I dont think many would follow in his footsteps but the guy certainly knows what he wants to achieve by using a 6mm/223R. I just hope our NRAA provides us the opportunity to use the 90 grainers for F-Std and TR as that would be challenging enough to get shooting as well or better than the 80gr Amax. I think I'll pass on shooting 105gr bullets out of the 223R but it just goes to show the strength of this cartridge.

Read it here: http://blog.sinclairintl.com/2009/12/15 ... remington/

Ian