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Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:01 pm
by Cameron Mc
RAVEN wrote:So Cam what do your spud taste like now :lol:


G day Richard
That's a great pot. I was really determined to make it usable.... and it is. It's just like a camp oven without a fire :D
I could not believe how much easier the JB made the carbon removal.

Nothing like a good pot and the best cook I know ... :wink:

Cheers

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:19 pm
by RAVEN
I agree Dennis keeping your barrel within a bracket of a cleanliness is what is required there are many ways to do it and everybody has their own idea
The biggest mistake ppl make IMO is poor cleaning technique and that combined with over cleaning is not a good formula
RB :)

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:20 pm
by RAVEN
Cam I guess you would be JB all you cook wear now :lol:

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:40 pm
by DenisA
RAVEN wrote:Cam I guess you would be JB all you cook wear now :lol:


Could be a new line of product for JB. The T.V ad could have Cam and Julie unloading sparkling wine glasses from the dishwasher followed by a BAT actioned, Shehane stocked, 6mmSwiss. With sparkling clean optics of course...

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:18 pm
by Cameron Mc
DenisA wrote:
RAVEN wrote:Cam I guess you would be JB all you cook wear now :lol:


Could be a new line of product for JB. The T.V ad could have Cam and Julie unloading sparkling wine glasses from the dishwasher followed by a BAT actioned, Shehane stocked, 6mmSwiss. With sparkling clean optics of course...


Your trying to give me nightmares you pair :)

My elbows are still sore from that experience

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:16 am
by BRETT B
DenisA , I do have a bore scope and coming from a benchrest back ground I do prefer to have a clean barrel and probably clean more often than most. I have been through different stages where I have tried shooting more rounds between cleaning (70+) but I always ended up going back to cleaning after a days shoot or 50 rounds roughly as it gave me more consistent results and barrels were easier to clean. With regards to the Carbon being gone in my fire form barrel , Yes it was completely gone from the throat and about 6 inches up the barrel which was as far as the solution got to because of the short tank I have. I run a light load for the first fireform for my 260AI and the 2209 seams to heavy carbon foul and get a bit gummy because the pressure is not high enough to burn completely clean and leaves the barrel with a glazed look!! Dropping it in the tank saved me a lot of elbow grease and time!! I used to have some trouble with a clean barrell taking 5 or more shots to settle down so I went and did some testing with chrono and various oils/bore lubricants at the range at 300yds . I tested all over a clean barrel each time and the chrono to see how many shots it took to get up to speed and also what it did on target at 300. My results showed that only one lubricant I had would burn away clean after the first shot and then go straight into a tight group!! all others I had took between 3-5 shots to get up to speed and also to start to group. Also a visual inspection with Bore scope of the barrel after the first shot showed that some lubricants would leave a black oily residue and would slowly burn away after a few rounds. Accuracy was also poor until it was gone. I wont get into detail of all the lubricants I tested because it could cause a big argument but I will say the one that Does work for me is Ballistol !! In testing it showed an average of 45-60 fps drop on the first shot and then It would be straight up to speed on the second and into a tight group. I found 1 wet and then 1 dry would leave ample amount for the first bullet over a clean bore and it has stayed very consistent with all my barrels using this method...

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:41 am
by DenisA
Very interesting post on some good experience Brett, Cheers.

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:05 pm
by Aubrey
Hi All

Not my area of expertise, but I have been trying to source some products for an online site I run. They all claim to be super effective for carbon removal. There is probably no miracle product out there.

I'd be happy to pass on a sample of each to someone who wanted to do a serious test and evaluation with a report back to forum members, and something that could get published.

More info here: www.cleanlubeprotect.com

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:37 pm
by smlekid
Hi guys I work in the automotive trade and have wondered if one of the products we used would knock carbon out of a barrel. it cleans up carbon on cylinder heads really well modern alloy headed engines get some pretty heavy duty carbon baked on in the combustion chambers
http://advancechemicals.com.au/product- ... /cold-dip/
http://advancechemicals.com.au/wp-conte ... -LS846.pdf
as can be seen this is a nasty product I don't have a bore scope but if anyone had a badly fouled barrel and was interested in testing it I could probably send a sample to try

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:36 pm
by pjifl
Typical Paint strippers contains Methyl Chloride and may be easier to source.
Read the label carefully.

It would have more chance of loosening carbon deposits and I doubt that it would be harmful to a stainless barrel.

It is not nice stuff but can be handled OK with care.

Peter Smith.

Re: Carbon removal

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:48 am
by BATattack
I like the idea of ultrasonic but KG or JB does the job if used properly. Whatever you put inside your barrel test it on the OUTSIDE first. Guess what? A JB patch rubbed on the outside turns black so scrubbing and scrubbing isn't pulling out more carbon . . . . . It's pulling out more barrel!

I've been looking at buying a heavy duty ultrasonic cleaner for cleaning pellet press parts at work. They are about $13000 and the tank is around 2.5ft square. The retailer hasn't been able to find me one local that I can test some parts in to sell it to management but I'm working on it!