F Class What Scope Reticle?

bolster55 · Post by **bolster55** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:09 pm

Hello All,
Would a NP-R2 (Nightforce) reticle suit F Class?

Regards

Post by **AlanF** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:21 pm

I believe the NP-R2 is the most popular reticle used in the NF BR models in F-Class, so it is certainly suitable. But reticle choice is a personal thing, and you may prefer one of the other available patterns. I've always been puzzled that NF doesn't offer a plain cross-hair in the BR model.

Alan

IanP · Post by **IanP** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:25 am

I am using the NP-R2 and the recticle suits my needs. The vertical bar spacing on the cross hair gives 2 MOA and the horizontal are at 5 MOA spacings when the scope is set for ranging (22x).

Its a nice open fine cross hair recticle without too much clutter. I am using a NightForce 8-32x56 Precision Benchrest for F-Class.

Paul Janzso · Post by **Paul Janzso** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:20 am

Just my 5c , I like the 1/8th min dot.

I am using a Weaver 36x with 1/8th dot , they center on the bull nicely.

Cheers
Paul

bennf · Post by **bennf** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:56 am

I use the NP-R2 in my 42 power and find it very good.
It is fine and sharp

Benn

bolster55 · Post by **bolster55** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:24 pm

Thank you all for the replies, that's helped a lot.

Cheers

RAVEN · Post by **RAVEN** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:57 pm

IMO
NP-2dd is the best simple no clutter benchrest Mod 1/8 moa clicks 36 or 42 fine for any long range shooting
I have witnessed on more than 0ne occasion ppl using the wrong aim point
Cheers
RB

Hangfire · Post by **Hangfire** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:18 pm

Even though this post is a couple of years old I thought I'd dig it up and see if we can get a bit more of a survey in regard to reticle choices for F/C, pros & cons, likes & dislikes?

So far the count goes:

NP-R2: 2
NP-2DD: 1
1/8 Dot: 1

This would be very handy info for newcomers to the game to help steer them on the right path even though as previously stated personal preference still comes into play.

ned kelly · Post by **ned kelly** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:23 am

G'Day All,
I've got the DD reticle, simply because I use dots in BR, however, I've often found the inner end of the horizontal bars is usually where the bullet lands, when you aim directly at the centre; so I use inner horizontal end as my aim off point. I just put it where the bullet has to go......I hardly ever use windage. Seems to work well.

Hope this helps

Cheerio Geoff

M12LRPV · Post by **M12LRPV** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:12 am

Hangfire wrote:Even though this post is a couple of years old I thought I'd dig it up and see if we can get a bit more of a survey in regard to reticle choices for F/C, pros & cons, likes & dislikes?

So far the count goes:

NP-R2: 2
NP-2DD: 1
1/8 Dot: 1

This would be very handy info for newcomers to the game to help steer them on the right path even though as previously stated personal preference still comes into play.

The answer depends on how you like shoot...

Do you hold off or do you adjust?

If you hold off then a dot probably isn't ideal but they're great if you're a knob clicker.

Hangfire · Post by **Hangfire** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:37 pm

Good point M12LRPV, With my field rifles I tend to hold off for wind and elevation as I generally don't have the time to click in the adjustments especially when on the stalk or spotting.

Can you or anyone else tell me if the hold off shooters score better/ same /worse than the clickers, or is it more dependant on the shooters ability to read the conditions, their equipment and their technique that enables them to come home with the points?
I would have thought this type of shooting would be more suited to the clickers as far as accuracy is concerned, and is there any point in someone who holds off getting a scope with 1/8 clicks?

Hope this makes sense.

Cheers.

Tim.

Post by **AlanF** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:19 pm

Hangfire wrote:...tell me if the hold off shooters score better/ same /worse than the clickers, or is it more dependant on the shooters ability to read the conditions, their equipment and their technique that enables them to come home with the points?

The choice between aiming (or holding) off and knob twiddling plays a relatively minor part in F-Class performance. Its fair to say that most of the top shooters aim off, but if you saw the way some of the twiddlers shoot, then you'd be just as impressed. If I had to compare them, I'd say twiddling is easier to keep track of where you are, but aiming off allows you to respond to changes quicker. In terms of outright accuracy in perfect conditions, aiming off allows you to adjust as fine as you like (i.e. less than 1/8 MOA) so theoretically it is better if you have the estimation skills.

Hangfire wrote:...is there any point in someone who holds off getting a scope with 1/8 clicks?...

I aim off always, and the problem with 1/4 clicks (as both my Leupolds have) is that I usually have to aim off vertically as well as horizontally, which can make the whole thing fairly taxing on my "senior" brain, so in my opinion there is still an advantage with 1/8 clicks.

Alan

RAVEN · Post by **RAVEN** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:43 pm

I agree with most of your comments Alan
I’m not a twiddler I only use the knobs to centre my group 1/8 is very important for this especially elevation.
IMO I get confused twiddling I can keep tack more effectively by holding off
I have never held off the wrong way but have dialled the wrong way :shock:

scope reticles with multiple aiming marks can also be confusing I have seen top shooters use the wrong crosshair hold off and has cost them badly.

NP2DD The unobstructed field-of-view allows you to observe the wind flags to detect a change of condition.
This reticle gives the best view the reticle design draws your eye to the middle
There are additional hold off points with this design and one can turn the power down to bracket the target in heavy mirage.

Now only if March made a reticle like that :wink:

RB

Hangfire · Post by **Hangfire** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:54 pm

Thanks for the insightful replies Alan and Raven. I can see that I am going to be in for a steep learning curve when I get down on the firing line. It sounds like experience plays a big part in shooting a good score. I think I will probably start out using a combination of twiddling and aiming off and see what works best for me then make future reticle choices based on my experience.

Tim.

johnk · Post by **johnk** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:06 pm

Tim,

Make sure that the reticule you choose is heavy enough so you can see it in all conditions and without hash marks or mil dots. For mine, that means moderate crosshaires or crosshairs with dot, except for Nightforce whose only cleanish reticle that is adequately heavy is the NP-R2. Just forget about the excrescences on the crosshairs & use the centre intersection if you go the Nightforce route.

John