nightforce scopes

jtrmz250 · Post by **jtrmz250** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:58 pm

hi
im new to f class i have a omark 308 and im looking into getting a scope i was thinking of a night force 12-32x56 benchrest what do you think of them ? is there another brand thats just as good? is more moa ajuustment better ? will i need a tapered base?

thanks

bruce moulds · Post by **bruce moulds** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:04 pm

sightron has an 8 - 32 which is getting good writeups
bruce.

jtrmz250 · Post by **jtrmz250** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:32 pm

where do i find them?

bennf · Post by **bennf** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:48 am

Hi I have just switched to a Nightforce BR Scope and love it.
I was shooting a 12-50 Nikko Sterling on an omark and won a Queens with it.
I guess what I am saying is how serious you are and your long term goals.
A good Nightforce will see you through to the top end of shooting A lower grade scope will see you through to being a good shooter and win some club events or even a queens.

Good luck and Good Shooting

Benn

VickiMcc · Post by **VickiMcc** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:14 am

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Gadget · Post by **Gadget** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:56 am

Hi, get the 12 x 42 BR you cant beat magnification when you want it.
you can always dial the power down but you cant go up on a 32.

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Graham

Paul Janzso · Post by **Paul Janzso** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:16 am

Regarding the 20 min rail , get one and have it fitted to your action, it will keep the scope internals centered better for the longer ranges .
Most TR shops will have the rails in stock.
I agree with Graham, go with the 12-42. Recticles, that is a matter of choice. May be some club members can show you what they use.
My opinion is less lines and clutter you have to look at through the scope to your target , the easier it is to watch the flags and make ajustments etc.

Cheers
Paul

RDavies · Post by **RDavies** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:51 am

I use a 12-42 NF as well and have nothing bad to say about it. The only bad thing about them is the weight. If you gun is close to the weight limit with a normal scope, a Nightforce will put it over. As others have said, I prefer a simple reticle, without much clutter, this way you are looking at the target and mirage, not at a swag of lines, dots and dashes.
Definitley get the 20 MOA rail, so you can wind down to 100 yards and hopefully up as far as 1000yds or close to it.

BATattack · Post by **BATattack** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:20 pm

hi,
i too have a omark .308 and have fitted a nightforce 5.5-22x56NXS. i chose this scope because it has 110MOA of vertical adjustment (55MOA up) and also fitted a 20MOA tapered base that allows the scope to be in the center of its adjustment at around 700yds from memory.

i have a NP-R2 reticle that has calibrated reference points on the reticle that allow me to quickly measure and make click adjustments accuratly with my sighters and give me other reference points when holding off.

i dont feel that i am restricted with the magnification as i have young eyes and the targets get bigger as you go out. you wrote 12-32x56? these come in 8-32x56 or 12-42x56.

i am seriously considering a 8-32x56BR with NP-R2 for a f-open rifle as they have a advantage of 1/8 clicks and a bit more power for hitting a 1/2moa 10 ring. the major problem you may have with a 12-42 or even a 8-32 is they only have 65 and 45MOA of vertical adjustment (half that for going up!!) respectivly. i think a .308 needs around 31MOA (someone correct me if im wrong!) from a 100yd zero so getting a tapered base with 25MOA probably wouldnt be a bad idea just to be shure. i think your on the money an 8-32 would be plenty.

Buy once cry once.

jtrmz250 · Post by **jtrmz250** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:06 pm

with the 12-42x56 and a 20 moa base is there enough moa adjustment to shoot from 100 to 1000 meters ? that is why i was thinking the 12-32x56

Post by **AlanF** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:34 pm

BATattack wrote:...the major problem you may have with a 12-42 or even a 8-32 is they only have 65 and 45MOA of vertical adjustment (half that for going up!!) respectivly...

I think you have these the wrong way round? (the higher power scope will have less adjustment).

Alan

Madracer · Post by **Madracer** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:14 am

i have a 12-42 on my omark and i cant quite get to 1000yrds but if i set my rail up better using burris signature inserts. but even still i would be 3min off one end of the scope at 100 and about 4 minutes away from the other end at 1000yrds

BATattack · Post by **BATattack** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:05 pm

yes sorry alanF i do have those numbers the wrong way round and thanks for picking that up! 12-42 has 45MOA and the 8-32 has 65MOA. and the point about high magnification scopes being a bit of a pain when combined with a loopy trajectory and trying to zero at various ranges with no holdover is being highlighted by madracer. im confident you will be able to zero with a 8-32 and 20MOA rail ($135 SARA) and if you had a custom 30MOA rail or a 20MOA combined with burris signature inserts you could get away with a 12-42.

bruce talty · Post by **bruce talty** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:08 pm

AlanF wrote:
BATattack wrote:...the major problem you may have with a 12-42 or even a 8-32 is they only have 65 and 45MOA of vertical adjustment (half that for going up!!) respectivly...

I think you have these the wrong way round? (the higher power scope will have less adjustment).

Alan

i have one fitted to my Rem700 Sleeved a 8X32X56 BR and 0 is at the bottom is 100yds up4'for300yds .009" brass shin under the back of the rail and have shot to 1200 yds with no trouble.about .006"per1"(25.4)for those that don't know how to use inches measure distance between front and back screws of rail and multiply by .006"for 20'angle
Formula 100yds(100X36)=3600"Divide that into 20'MOA(20'X1.047")=20.94" that divided by 3600"=0.005816667" PER 1"THAT HOW I DID IT I THINK THIS RIGHT.Bruce

IanP · Post by **IanP** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:33 am

BATattack wrote:yes sorry alanF i do have those numbers the wrong way round and thanks for picking that up! 12-42 has 45MOA and the 8-32 has 65MOA. and the point about high magnification scopes being a bit of a pain when combined with a loopy trajectory and trying to zero at various ranges with no holdover is being highlighted by madracer. im confident you will be able to zero with a 8-32 and 20MOA rail ($135 SARA) and if you had a custom 30MOA rail or a 20MOA combined with burris signature inserts you could get away with a 12-42.

Hi Batattack, I'm sorry to say you still have these numbers wrong and for both the scopes you mention.

8-32x56BR has 50 MOA for both E and W

12-42x56BR has 40 MOA for both E and W

The numbers you were quoting the wrong way around were for the NXS version of the NightForce scopes.

Hope this helps as we dont wont people buying scopes thru incorrect info they read on Ozfclass would we!

I'm using two 8-32x56BR with the NP-R2 on my f-class guns and love them. I wanted one of each (8-32, 12-42) but the 12-42 version involved waiting too long. Both these scopes are mounted on 25 MOA picatinny ramps.