F/TR in South Australia

RAVEN · Post by **RAVEN** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:55 am

As result of the FCASA AGM held over the Queens shoot weekend
I am asking for expressions of interest from anyone that would be willing to participate if we included F/TR competition in the 2012 Queens.
ICFRA rules applied.
Please reply to the post or PM me.
Cheers
RB

ratshot · Post by **ratshot** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:39 pm

Is there any body shooting f/tr to the letter of the rules at club level or any level in OZ yet.

Lynn Otto · Post by **Lynn Otto** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:48 pm

There are people who have adapted rifles to fit the rules but there isn't anyone actually shooting it that I'm aware of here. From discussions I've had even in match rifle where it was adopted, there is no one taking it up. Possibly some one else will know of someone who has jumped in feet first.

ratshot · Post by **ratshot** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:04 pm

Match rifle do not shoot F/TR

Lynn Otto · Post by **Lynn Otto** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:24 pm

The match rifle guys are quite happy to have people come along and shoot F T/R just as they are happy to have people shooting F Class with them, they have included it in their match options. I'm not sure under what configuration but they certainly do have it or at least include it if anyone wishes to take up the opportunity.

Hangfire · Post by **Hangfire** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:41 pm

Match Rifle .308 F-Class, can be shot either off a bi-pod or rest with any weight of projectile, that is why it is hard to put a true definition on what it should be called.

It is neither F-T/R or Standard.

bruce moulds · Post by **bruce moulds** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:55 am

some thoughts on ftr.
1. if it is not shot under icfra rules, it is not ftr. there have been comments that rifle weight rules should be relaxed, or projectiles should be controlled. doing either of these things would stop it being ftr.
2. it is a new discipline, and should be presented as such. this way tr shooters ( read organizing bodies) will see it as an addition as opposed to a dilution.
one of its advantages is to tap into a membership source that is currently not addressed, namely the gunshop market. fs has primarily fed on fullbore rifles and shooters and will continue to do so.
3. trying to control bullets will be self defeating, as bullet choice is one of the attractions of ftr. that said, many will opt for using nraa projectiles, so more of them will be sold, so nraa projectile sales will increase.
4. if we can get this sport going, all fullbore didisciplines will benefit from the increased membership.
5. some of the new ftr shooters could go to other disciplines just as some will leave other disciplines for ftr.
bruce.

Lynn Otto · Post by **Lynn Otto** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:53 am

ratshot wrote:Match rifle do not shoot F/TR

http://www.nraa.com.au/pubs/memberupdates/MU33.pdf
Match Rifle – F/TR Class of Shooting
At a meeting of the Match Rifle Association at Campbell Town in March 2011 the Match Rifle
Assn. accepted a motion to trial the running of an F/TR Class during Match Rifle Events, if the
event organisers chose to do so. This is only in the trial stages and restricted to Match Rifle
events. The Rules for F/TR are the ICFRA F Class F/TR rules.

This is what I based my comment on, along with comment from local match rifle shooters that no one has yet accepted the opportunity.

:?:

Bruce /Richard, you guys see more shooters on a regular basis at Lower Light, is anyone serious enough about shooting F T/R to actually be shooting it at club or other level?

mike H · Post by **mike H** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:53 pm

Lynn Otto wrote:
ratshot wrote:Match rifle do not shoot F/TR

http://www.nraa.com.au/pubs/memberupdates/MU33.pdf
Match Rifle – F/TR Class of Shooting
At a meeting of the Match Rifle Association at Campbell Town in March 2011 the Match Rifle
Assn. accepted a motion to trial the running of an F/TR Class during Match Rifle Events, if the
event organisers chose to do so. This is only in the trial stages and restricted to Match Rifle
events. The Rules for F/TR are the ICFRA F Class F/TR rules.

This is what I based my comment on, along with comment from local match rifle shooters that no one has yet accepted the opportunity.

Bruce /Richard, you guys see more shooters on a regular basis at Lower Light, is anyone serious enough about shooting F T/R to actually be shooting it at club or other level?

Lynn,
At the NSW Match Rifle Championships this year, five persons entered F/TR. As the South Australian Match Rifle organisers did not offer F/TR, instead having a hybrid Match Rifle/F/class,naturally no one shot F/TR.
Mike.

RAVEN · Post by **RAVEN** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:23 pm

Bruce /Richard, you guys see more shooters on a regular basis at Lower Light, is anyone serious enough about shooting F T/R to actually be shooting it at club or other level?

Yes there is Lynn
and also some new members that with their factory remmy and savage f/tr rifles will fit right in I am aware of one prominent FO shooter who is going to shoot F/TR already.

BATattack · Post by **BATattack** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:21 pm

why cant "gunshop buyers" run standard 155gr pills? a stock standard rem/savage/tikka/sako 308 will all shoot 155gr pills most will not stabalise or be throated for the heavy stuff.

RAVEN · Post by **RAVEN** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:16 pm

Most will discover and this is my experience there is a trade off bigger BC sometime does not relate to accuracy and most will discover that the 155 or close to will be the best choice same with the .223 80Gr VLD's or 90Grainer will be very competitive.
More the point those that purchase this type of equipment (remmy PSP Savage F/TR and Tikka) will fit right in giving them some where to practise when they aren’t hunting.
Spead the word Bat gettem to the club :wink:

bruce moulds · Post by **bruce moulds** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:12 pm

bat,
you can use 155s if you want to.
that includes berger & lapua.
and you can point them too.
but you have to admit those 185 bergers look good.
you can even do what graham mincham is going to do, i.e. make his own flatbase & boattail long ogive bullets.
bruce.

bruce moulds · Post by **bruce moulds** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:53 pm

back again bat,
when you build your ftr rifle, i would suggest a stolle action due to weight considerations
bruce.

BATattack · Post by **BATattack** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:11 pm

dont worry bruce ive allready got a f/tr rifle stiller action 1/10 twist 31" heavily fluted barrel :lol: