difference between 2209 & 2213sc

[saum2]

I know where these powders sit on the burn rate chart, but how much difference is there and what effect does it have? I'm using a 6mm with 105gn Bergers & 115gn Dtac's, Is the 2209 better suited to the lighter projectile? I have both powders.
Any thoughts on the issue.
Geoff

[Brad Y]

All relative to the case its being used in, the amount used, primers used to spark it off... Otherwise there is two different labels but the same black bottles

[Dave P]

I have done some testing with a 6x47L using 105 Lapua Scenars and both 2209 & 2213SC.
In my tests a load of 39.5grns of 2209 generated an average speed of 3070fps on that day in that rifle.
Using the same rifle on the same day I generated speeds of 3050fps using 42.5 grns of 2213SC (this was not a compacted load)
The brass used was Lapua obviously and the primers were Federal 205 small rifle.
I would say that the 2213SC should provide lower pressures but the trade off is more powder used. The 2213SC being larger both in amount and size gives 100% load density or close to.
I would certainly try the 2213SC with the 105 and 115 bullets.
I have found no issues using standard primers with 2213SC in the 6x47 Lapua case.

[saum2]

I'm using the 6xc, so far i've tried just the 13sc with promising results. The XC case is a bit larger than the 6x47 case. The 13sc seems to fill the case more which is probably what i'm looking for.
I haven't chronographed anything yet but it seems i have good grouping with the 13sc with 39.5gns & a similar group using 42gns all with the 115Dtacs. With 42gns of 2213sc the bolt lift is fine but showing signs of nearing max with the primers indented a bit. Am trying the 105gn Bergers next and trying to stick with the same powder if possible. One thing I have found with 2213sc is that it is more difficult to weight out being larger stick size.