We are looking for an equitable handicap system so that TR and FS can shoot against each other competitively.
The NRA medal, which is given annually to each NSW club to shoot off for, has been historically TR, and has no provision for B and C grades, so it has always been contentious. It is shot over three ranges.
Our club now has a predominance of FS shooters and we have shot for this medal with every member shooting FS. With TR and FS all scoring as for TR, and, last shoot with FS handicapped 1 point and 3 centres per range.
This last handicap meant that if a FS shooter shot 60's, then his score would come back to 49-7 per range, which, even with a perfect score, it is virtually impossible to win, as just one TR shooter getting one 50-0 over the three ranges blows all FS out.
There are clubs that have an equitable handicap system and we would appreciate it if you could post it here on the forum for us (and for other clubs who may also be in the same situation and appreciate the information).
Thanking you in anticipation.
Ray.
PS: NSWRA are not prepared to offer a NRA medal for FS,
Handicap system for TR V FS
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Seems to me that a TR score of 50/10 should be equal to a FS score of 60/10. otherwise, as you say you can never win the NRA medal shooting FS even with a perfrct score.
I would also think that a score of 59/60 for FS should be equal to a score of 49/50 for TR. This would be fair to both shooters and permit both to drop one shot without advantage.
After that do what you like as you would be talking about the minor place getters anyway and they would be out of the running for the medal.
So I guess what I am saying is that it is hard to reduce score to the same numerical number. Better to keep the two scoring systems separate till the end and then do a comparison to find the winner and place getters based on a score value matrix.
I would also think that a score of 59/60 for FS should be equal to a score of 49/50 for TR. This would be fair to both shooters and permit both to drop one shot without advantage.
After that do what you like as you would be talking about the minor place getters anyway and they would be out of the running for the medal.
So I guess what I am saying is that it is hard to reduce score to the same numerical number. Better to keep the two scoring systems separate till the end and then do a comparison to find the winner and place getters based on a score value matrix.
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if both disciplines scored out of 50.10 an equitable system can happen.
it would nean that fclass would score the super v as v, the tr v as 5, the tr 5 as 4 etc.
the degree of difficulty for fclass is very close scored that way to tr as it is scored now.
keep safe,
bruce.
it would nean that fclass would score the super v as v, the tr v as 5, the tr 5 as 4 etc.
the degree of difficulty for fclass is very close scored that way to tr as it is scored now.
keep safe,
bruce.
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Razer,
We've used the following MCSI lookup tables for our Pennant scores over
the last few years. The tables on the first page ignore centres (for TR)
and super Vs (for both F-Classes). The second page of tables includes
centres and super Vs by adding them to the points e.g 49.5 becomes 54
etc. Our association members have voted to use the first page tables.
The MCSI figures are in the 2nd column of each of the 3 tables. These
can be directly compared between classes. They aren't really good
enough to base sheep stations on, but if you run a handicap system over
the top of the MCSI scores, everyone can be included in teams etc.
Alan
We've used the following MCSI lookup tables for our Pennant scores over
the last few years. The tables on the first page ignore centres (for TR)
and super Vs (for both F-Classes). The second page of tables includes
centres and super Vs by adding them to the points e.g 49.5 becomes 54
etc. Our association members have voted to use the first page tables.
The MCSI figures are in the 2nd column of each of the 3 tables. These
can be directly compared between classes. They aren't really good
enough to base sheep stations on, but if you run a handicap system over
the top of the MCSI scores, everyone can be included in teams etc.
Alan
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