another urban myth bites
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another urban myth bites
the dust.
how many times do we read of some wanker who will not consider any chambering unless you can get lapua beass for it.
i would suggest that most of these cockbirds have never done serious comparisons, and make such statements in order to try to impress others.
today i tried some unbatched winchester 284 brass, and if anything it was better than lapua.
further testing, particularly at longer ranges, will tell further.
i also read of many gimmicks which people see, and think they won't have a chance unless they have one too.
the problem is that while people are worrying about such things, they have no room in their heads for identification of basic fundamentals, thus leaving their foundations built on sand.
under this heading comes such things as having to have the highest bc bullet at the highest speed, big wheel additions to windage adjustments on scopes, trick reticles in scopes, and offset stocks.
keep safe,
bruce moulds.
how many times do we read of some wanker who will not consider any chambering unless you can get lapua beass for it.
i would suggest that most of these cockbirds have never done serious comparisons, and make such statements in order to try to impress others.
today i tried some unbatched winchester 284 brass, and if anything it was better than lapua.
further testing, particularly at longer ranges, will tell further.
i also read of many gimmicks which people see, and think they won't have a chance unless they have one too.
the problem is that while people are worrying about such things, they have no room in their heads for identification of basic fundamentals, thus leaving their foundations built on sand.
under this heading comes such things as having to have the highest bc bullet at the highest speed, big wheel additions to windage adjustments on scopes, trick reticles in scopes, and offset stocks.
keep safe,
bruce moulds.
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wow Bruce - so bitter!
That really smells like it has been brewing a while - haven't you heard the saying - "better out than in"? Let her rip and get it out it feels much better.
That really smells like it has been brewing a while - haven't you heard the saying - "better out than in"? Let her rip and get it out it feels much better.
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Re: another urban myth bites
bruce moulds wrote:the dust.
how many times do we read of some wanker who will not consider any chambering unless you can get lapua beass for it.
i would suggest that most of these cockbirds have never done serious comparisons, and make such statements in order to try to impress others.
I have to agree bruce those fools who demand Lapua brass .. ha they have obviously never tried RWS it is by far the best brass .. blokes like us(U an me that is) only use chamberings that we can get RWS brass for right mate.......
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Yes Bruce...see the principles of marketing and what happens with an open market with unlimited demand...anything goes, if it still doens't work hire an expert and get them to publish information telling everyone how good your item is.
I asked a couple of F-Class shooters between Christmas day and New Years day whether they prefer high BC over accuracy. I was concerned about the slippery slope that is making high BC projectiles and wanted a better idea on where to focus my resources? The guys I emailed have spent a lot on equipment and testing; and are at the top of their sport. Their comment was 'Accuracy is the be all and end all, High BC to go with it is nice'. I admit I was kinda relieved.
I guess you could apply that comment to a few other items like 'Accuracy is the be all and end all, Zero-Stop to go with it is nice'.
I asked a couple of F-Class shooters between Christmas day and New Years day whether they prefer high BC over accuracy. I was concerned about the slippery slope that is making high BC projectiles and wanted a better idea on where to focus my resources? The guys I emailed have spent a lot on equipment and testing; and are at the top of their sport. Their comment was 'Accuracy is the be all and end all, High BC to go with it is nice'. I admit I was kinda relieved.
I guess you could apply that comment to a few other items like 'Accuracy is the be all and end all, Zero-Stop to go with it is nice'.
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Re: another urban myth bites
"i tried some unbatched winchester 284 brass, and if anything it was better than lapua."
Technically, lapua don't even make 284 Winchester brass, yet...
Technically, lapua don't even make 284 Winchester brass, yet...
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Re: another urban myth bites
bruce moulds wrote:the dust.
how many times do we read of some wanker who will not consider any chambering unless you can get lapua beass for it.
i would suggest that most of these cockbirds have never done serious comparisons, and make such statements in order to try to impress others.
today i tried some unbatched winchester 284 brass, and if anything it was better than lapua.
further testing, particularly at longer ranges, will tell further.
i also read of many gimmicks which people see, and think they won't have a chance unless they have one too.
the problem is that while people are worrying about such things, they have no room in their heads for identification of basic fundamentals, thus leaving their foundations built on sand.
under this heading comes such things as having to have the highest bc bullet at the highest speed, big wheel additions to windage adjustments on scopes, trick reticles in scopes, and offset stocks.
keep safe,
bruce moulds.
Oh dear! another well balanced view of shooters who's views differ from yours. Now these people who dont see things the same as you are "wankers".
Whatever happened to that old idea that we respect others right to have an opinion even when it differs from ours. If people prefer Lapua brass then good for them and if you prefer Winchester brass then good for you, but just because their opinions differ from yours does not give you the right to belittle them and call them wankers.
Wake up and smell the roses! Life is too short to be an opinionated bigot every day of it. If you have a strong opinion on something then express it as your opinion not as everyone else who sees it differently is a wanker.
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bsouthernau wrote:Is there listing of innaccurate high BC bullets anywhere? I only shoot .30 cal and haven't searched all that widely but I haven't come across any yet.
Barry
Yes Barry - every one of the new age projectiles we have tried lately shoot outstandingly well. Some people just can't come to grips with the reality you can have your cake and eat it too. But as Ian said - Bruce is entitled to his opinion. His opinion is that we are all "cockbirds" for trying.
Let his mind be filled with these thoughts as (to quote the almighty himself) whilst he fills his mind with this claptrap there is not enough room in there for the "fundamentals".
"Carry on" I say!
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paul,
you will not be chaired in for having the highest bc, or the trickiest scope,
but a rifle that shoots consistently well, the ability to hold and squeeze, and good windreading skills have made it hardly worth turning up to a prize shoot if you are there for more years than i care to remember.
i recall the time your penny dropped.
you stopped looking for silver bullets, put your mind in the right place, and never looked back.
when more fopen shooters do this, the sport will advance.
this is partly why you were chosen in the safclass team that went to mackay.
pity i missed you at lower light the other day, and congratulations.
keep safe,
bruce.
you will not be chaired in for having the highest bc, or the trickiest scope,
but a rifle that shoots consistently well, the ability to hold and squeeze, and good windreading skills have made it hardly worth turning up to a prize shoot if you are there for more years than i care to remember.
i recall the time your penny dropped.
you stopped looking for silver bullets, put your mind in the right place, and never looked back.
when more fopen shooters do this, the sport will advance.
this is partly why you were chosen in the safclass team that went to mackay.
pity i missed you at lower light the other day, and congratulations.
keep safe,
bruce.
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matt,
the first thing i will say is that you have probably tried it all, and as such, your opinion has validity.
secondly, i will say all the queens you have won were not won by silver bullets, gimmicks, or baseless theory.
you won by working up good loads that stood up when needed, heldem and squeezedem, and read the wind.
hell who knows, you could probably have done it with winchester brass.
you did it with a 6mm which isn't the highest bc, & a 6br which wasn't the fastest.
thirdly, i recall you being beaten by unbatched winchester brass.
from my own point of view, i believe my decline started with norma brass, and sped up with lapua. we will see whether winchester can overcome senility and other problems associated with old age.
keep safe,
bruce.
the first thing i will say is that you have probably tried it all, and as such, your opinion has validity.
secondly, i will say all the queens you have won were not won by silver bullets, gimmicks, or baseless theory.
you won by working up good loads that stood up when needed, heldem and squeezedem, and read the wind.
hell who knows, you could probably have done it with winchester brass.
you did it with a 6mm which isn't the highest bc, & a 6br which wasn't the fastest.
thirdly, i recall you being beaten by unbatched winchester brass.
from my own point of view, i believe my decline started with norma brass, and sped up with lapua. we will see whether winchester can overcome senility and other problems associated with old age.
keep safe,
bruce.
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