Copperhead projectile approval?

[Wal86]

Hey fellas,

With Berger bullets being harder to obtain in Australia, would this be an opportunity to raise the question about getting both Copperhead 22 and 30cal projectiles approved, for use in both TR and FS?

- quality bullet made in our own backyard
- gives shooters another option.
- makes it hard for new shooters to get involved if projectiles are unavailable?

I think this would be a positive for the sport, but wouldn't know who/how to raise the question... I would be interested to hear what others thoughts are, as this could potentially get the ball rolling/ right people involved..

Cheers

Alan

[Matt P]

Alan
To get the ball rolling you would need a State Association to put it to the board for approval. I would suggest asking Ken if he could handle supply first thou.
Matt P

[lonerider43]

ICFRA Rules on projectiles.:

T2.19.2. Bullet:
T2.19.2.1. The .308 bullet diameter will be between .3075” and .3085”. No
single bullet may exceed 156 grains in weight (or the factory
tolerance for 155 grain ammunition where factory ammunition is in
use).
T2.19.2.2. The bullet diameter for .223 Remington will be between .2235” and
.2245”. No single bullet may exceed 81 grains in weight (or the
factory tolerance for 80 grain ammunition where factory ammunition
is used).

SSR's V5.0e May 2018
Appendix 1

PROJECTILES ALLOWED
The following projectiles are at present approved for handloading for Target Rifle and F Class Standard Disciplines.
.308 Calibre
ADI – FMJ Projectiles 144 grain
Sierra MatchKing 2155 155 grain
Sierra Palma MatchKing 2156 155 grain
BJD - HBC .308 155 grain
Optimus HBC 155.5 grain
Nosler HPBT .308 155 grain
Berger VLD Match Target 155 grain Berger Match Fullbore Target 155.5 grain Berger Match Hybrid Target 155 grain
.223 Calibre
Sierra - MatchKing .224 69 grain
Sierra - MatchKing .224 80 grain
ELD Match .224 80 grain
Hornady – Amax .224 80 grain
Nosler – HPBT .224 80 grain
JLK VLD:- .224 80 grain.
Berger Match VLD Target:- .224 80 grain.
Berger Match Fullbore Target:- .224 80.5 grain.
.303 Calibre
Any projectile to maximum weight of 180 grains.

why would we need more and expensive projectiles than we have listed.??

[Wal86]

[BATattack]

How much better are the bergers than the HBC? I
dont shoot standard so never really had a need to check!

[bsouthernau]

[Matt P]

[Matt P]

[bruce moulds]

"the nraa's cut"
the bullet tax.
rumour has it that there is discussion at high levels to limit fopen and ftr bullets, so a similar tax can be put in place.
argument being that fstd and tr is shouldering an unfair financial burden compared to ftr and fopen.
when thay had control of the tax, they even managed to stuff that up.
there are many ways to raise money other than a bullet tax, which is just a copout method.
another thought is that if you limit bullet choices, you have to guarantee supply, and they have to be of competitive quality and design to what the rest of the world uses.
keep safe,
bruce.

[Wal86]

[BATattack]

They need to have them before they can sell them . . . .with or without tax.

[bruce moulds]

wal,
it is not the icfra that is rumoured to be the problem.
keep safe,
bruce.

[Matt P]

Bruce
As much as I don't have time for the NRAA in it's current form, I think that's just a rumour and also something they couldn't afford to enforce (might cost some membership ).

Alan
It's come up a few times, mainly prior to the introduction of the Bergers as Palma teams have to adhere to ICFRA rules. So Lapua's etc had been used in testing in the lead up to the Palma.

The fairest way forward with the "bullet tax" would be to add to the membership fee for everyone and drop the bullet tax and restrictions.

Matt P

[lonerider43]

i wasnt having a go at anyone,or the question,just adding some info i thought was purtinant to the original question.
isnt the whole open slather on projies the main point of fopen ? [im probably wrong,but..]

[Matt P]