I got my entry level borescope delivered today and its an eye opening experience.
260AI – match barrel but getting on in round count, no fouling after carbon then copper cleaning , fire cracking makes the first 5cm or more look like reptile scales
Tikka 223 factory barrel – about 800 rounds, looking pretty good with only minor pitting, internal surfaces look smooth and almost as nice as a low end custom barrel
Savage 208 factory barrel with 90 rounds – holy crap, barrel is rough as guts, I’m amazed it shoots at all and no wonder there is a lot of copper fouling
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A friend asked me to see if I could sight their Savage rifle in for them in .223, they could not seem to get it to group.
Best I could get was about a 6" group at 100 metres. I checked the scope and it was tight, I then looked up the barrel with my Hawkeye. Holy crap ! It looks very similar to those pics you have put up. We took it back to the place of purchase & asked if they could send it back because it seemed to have a defective barrel. We were told later that Savage barrels are broached & that is what they look like.
I then looked through 6 of my rifles, and not one of them has anything like what I saw in that Savage.
They did recrown it though & sent it back with a target claiming it was shot at 150 metres & would be about a 1.5" group.
I have purchased some premium ammo & will get back out there to see if it will group soon. But I am not holding my breath.
Best I could get was about a 6" group at 100 metres. I checked the scope and it was tight, I then looked up the barrel with my Hawkeye. Holy crap ! It looks very similar to those pics you have put up. We took it back to the place of purchase & asked if they could send it back because it seemed to have a defective barrel. We were told later that Savage barrels are broached & that is what they look like.
I then looked through 6 of my rifles, and not one of them has anything like what I saw in that Savage.
They did recrown it though & sent it back with a target claiming it was shot at 150 metres & would be about a 1.5" group.
I have purchased some premium ammo & will get back out there to see if it will group soon. But I am not holding my breath.
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I sent a WTF? email to savage, asking where I need to send it to in Australia for a barrel replacement under warranty. I'm expecting the response to be " nothing wrong, that's normal, goodbye"
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That's one of the roughest barrels I've ever seen!
It's not "broached" - it's been button rifled which is why the circular drill marks in the lands and grooves line up.
It's not "broached" - it's been button rifled which is why the circular drill marks in the lands and grooves line up.
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Yep, it looks like someone just got a solid blank, drilled a hole through it with a damaged drill bit and then just yanked a button through . The groove (gouge) is in a helical pattern and is the entire length of the barrel!
Hahaha .. Im expecting Ill be told its fine and since the projectile is only touching 1/2 of the barrel is should be, due to all of the gouging, its a low friction / high speed barrel, your welcome
Hahaha .. Im expecting Ill be told its fine and since the projectile is only touching 1/2 of the barrel is should be, due to all of the gouging, its a low friction / high speed barrel, your welcome
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My stepson's .223 looks the same. Shoots reasonable, but amazingly, not a lot of copper and cleans up rather well with Eliminator.
It must be the way Savage produce all barrels. Years ago a number of M.A.B. rimfire barrels came t N.Q. at the same time. All looked horrible internally, but they shot well. Another respected N.Q. contributor to this forum will vouch this.
Cheers,
Trevor.
It must be the way Savage produce all barrels. Years ago a number of M.A.B. rimfire barrels came t N.Q. at the same time. All looked horrible internally, but they shot well. Another respected N.Q. contributor to this forum will vouch this.
Cheers,
Trevor.
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Plasmaboy_au wrote:Yep, it looks like someone just got a solid blank, drilled a hole through it with a damaged drill bit and then just yanked a button through . The groove (gouge) is in a helical pattern and is the entire length of the barrel!
Hahaha .. Im expecting Ill be told its fine and since the projectile is only touching 1/2 of the barrel is should be, due to all of the gouging, its a low friction / high speed barrel, your welcome
That looks like a good one, Savage by name .....
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