McMillan stocks. Tooley MBR or F-Class?

DenisA · Post by **DenisA** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:12 pm

G'day All,

Just interested in peoples experience and opinion of which is the better stock between the McMillan MBR and F-class and why.

As I understand from an old post of Dave Mc's, an alloy bedding block would not be a good option in the F-class? I stand to be corrected if this is not the case.

Cheers,

Matt P · Post by **Matt P** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:04 pm

Denis
Stocks are personal thing in most aspects, I don't like either stock. I find the F Class tends to 'bounce" on the bags and the MBR to "tall" in the fore end, but many shoots have been won with both. I prefer laminated stock mainly for the way they absorb vibrations whether it be with traditional bedding or vee block. I really like the Kelby 1M shape but once again that's just my personal opinion. I have also been selling a few "lowriders" which have the 1M fore-end, MBR pistol grip and Shehane tracker butt.
Regards
Matt P

DenisA · Post by **DenisA** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:31 pm

Matt P wrote:Denis
I have also been selling a few "lowriders" which have the 1M fore-end, MBR pistol grip and Shehane tracker butt.
Regards
Matt P

G'day Matt, thanks for your reply. Are they something that you get in as blanks or do you order them inletted to suit which ever action your working on?

Matt P · Post by **Matt P** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:35 pm

I get them as blank and inlet to suit the other plus with laminate if you want to change the grip etc, it's easy.
Matt P

Brad Y · Post by **Brad Y** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:48 pm

Denis- what happened to the stock idea you were working on?

KHGS · Post by **KHGS** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:49 pm

[quote="Matt P"]Denis
Stocks are personal thing in most aspects, I don't like either stock. I find the F Class tends to 'bounce" on the bags and the MBR to "tall" in the fore end, but many shoots have been won with both. I prefer laminated stock mainly for the way they absorb vibrations whether it be with traditional bedding or vee block. I really like the Kelby 1M shape but once again that's just my personal opinion. I have also been selling a few "lowriders" which have the 1M fore-end, MBR pistol grip and Shehane tracker butt.
Regards
Matt P[/quote)

I agree, I have never favoured synthetic stocks for the same reasons Matt has stated. There are other issues as well, they are more difficult to "glue" & "screw" things to. I like & prefer laminated timber stocks
Keith H.

shooter mcreid · Post by **shooter mcreid** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:59 pm

Hey mate, you're more than welcome to have a go at my MBR and I'll have the fclass next week when I get it. I'd be happy to meet you at Belmont one sat afternoon for a trial of both.

DenisA · Post by **DenisA** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:51 pm

Brad Y wrote:Denis- what happened to the stock idea you were working on?

G'day Brad, it's just needs some final touch ups. I have my .284 shooting extremely well in it, but I'm still not happy with the amount of flex it has. Also, its not as heavy as I'd like it to be.
Although I will finish it for shits and giggles, I'm getting a little tired of mucking around with it.
I've decided that 2015 will be the year that I bite the bullet and purchase a couple of known good stocks that will eliminate all doubt in that department.

shooter mcreid wrote:Hey mate, you're more than welcome to have a go at my MBR and I'll have the fclass next week when I get it. I'd be happy to meet you at Belmont one sat afternoon for a trial of both.

Josh that's a really kind offer and I'd like to take you up on it. Any chance I can get your email address and I'll tee up a day with you in the next few weeks?............. only if you let me pay for the rounds I use. Thank you very much..

shooter mcreid · Post by **shooter mcreid** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:19 pm

Pm'ed ya

DaveMc · Post by **DaveMc** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:45 pm

Denis, I don't know when I ever said alloy bedding blocks are a bad idea for F class and certainly don't think I have ever felt that way. I have alloy blocks in both my current stocks and also some of my first ones.

If you mean a barrel block then I also have never said they are a "bad idea" - just that it is important to understand the difference in the vibrations they produce (effectively shortening and stiffening the barrel, creating smaller but higher frequency vibrations.) and can be very accurate in their own right - just creating different "tuning" requirements. They are used very effectively with outstanding grouping potential in long range bench rest, f class and short range bench rest.

Frank Green · Post by **Frank Green** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:44 am

I have a Tooley MBR on mine. I like it. Shoot well with it etc....

What was said earlier. Stocks are a personal preference more than anything else. Pick what fits you and you are comfortable with.

Also look at Manners F-Class Stock.

http://mannersstocks.com/competition-stocks/

One of the guys here has it on his and is very happy with it.

Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels

DenisA · Post by **DenisA** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:11 am

DaveMc wrote:Denis, I don't know when I ever said alloy bedding blocks are a bad idea for F class and certainly don't think I have ever felt that way. I have alloy blocks in both my current stocks and also some of my first ones.

If you mean a barrel block then I also have never said they are a "bad idea" - just that it is important to understand the difference in the vibrations they produce (effectively shortening and stiffening the barrel, creating smaller but higher frequency vibrations.) and can be very accurate in their own right - just creating different "tuning" requirements. They are used very effectively with outstanding grouping potential in long range bench rest, f class and short range bench rest.

My mistake Dave I went looking for the post that I thought I remembered. It was not in reference to a bedding block, it was when you relieved the F-class stock for the recoil lug. I guess it was in my mind that you had done some relief work in the action area and come across a flex issue.

I didn't mean to imply that you said they were a bad idea. I based my comment on my understanding of your situation, as wrong as that may have been. I should have been more clear on that.

My apologies.

DaveMc wrote:Hi Dennis, I had a similar issue with the Mcmillan F class stock when I cut out the recoil lug area - just had a big bendy spot right in front of the action. I used carbon fibre and reinforced this area - worked a treat. If you are going to paint over it you may as well give it a go. A couple of wraps of unidirectional matting and polyester resin should do the trick. Fill it up with couple of coatings of gelcoat and a flow coat to finish - then sand back and polish ready for paint

DenisA · Post by **DenisA** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:16 am

Frank Green wrote:I have a Tooley MBR on mine. I like it. Shoot well with it etc....

Also look at Manners F-Class Stock.

Hi Frank, thanks for your post. I like the look of the manners mostly however I don't like that the toe (underside) of the butt is recessed. It seems to me that the lower ends could very easily interfere with certain rear bags such as a SEB bigfoot (which I'm a fan of), when free recoiling.

You have a very nice rifle there, cheers.

Amac · Post by **Amac** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:30 pm

Hi Denis

I purchased a Shehane MBR Tracker for my Panda 308 build. I liked the stock so I got another one to go on a Magnum action that is awaiting the gun doctors assistance.

Same one that I shot at North Arm - if you remember. I had the inletting finished off, pillars and bedding done.

I think off memory the website is scopeusout.com

I found Bill really good to deal with and he delivered exactly what he said he would. Waiting time was about 4 weeks or so. Depending on action it may be semi-inletted. You will need to finish it though which shouldn't be a problem for you.

Good laminate option over the McMillian stocks.

Cheers

Andrew

Cameron Mc · Post by **Cameron Mc** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:18 pm

Amac wrote:Hi Denis

I purchased a Shehane MBR Tracker for my Panda 308 build. I liked the stock so I got another one to go on a Magnum action that is awaiting the gun doctors assistance.

Same one that I shot at North Arm - if you remember. I had the inletting finished off, pillars and bedding done.

I think off memory the website is scopeusout.com

I found Bill really good to deal with and he delivered exactly what he said he would. Waiting time was about 4 weeks or so. Depending on action it may be semi-inletted. You will need to finish it though which shouldn't be a problem for you.

Good laminate option over the McMillian stocks.

Cheers

Andrew

G day Andrew
They are good stocks, the Shehane MBR's. These are built by Bill Shehane.
His MBR version is slightly different to the McMillan. Flat along underside of butt and the fore end has fuller sides.
Another plus with the Shehanes, you can order either Laminate or Fibreglass. He gets McMillan to make the fibreglass version. I have both McMillan MBR and Shehane MBR in fibreglass and prefer the Shehane version.
As others have said stocks are an individual thing.

Cheers
Cam

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