Trigger questions

[Bigtravoz]

Okay so I had planned to get a timney 501t tactical trigger for the rifle I am building but the retail price has jumped massively in the last two weeks and it’s now not much more inexpensive than a Shilen competition or jewell BR so I figured I would put the question up here to see what everyone’s suggestions about either of these would be. I know that the jewell is well renowned as a fine trigger and Shilen have always had a good reputation for making good stuff but I don’t have any real world experience with either of these triggers. Can those wit the experience please enlighten me.

Thanks Travis

[superx10]

Hi
I use and recommend jewel triggers have never had a problem and adjust very fine with no kreep. Never used the other too.

[Mistit]

Gday
I’ve had all 3 rated as follows
1/ jewel
2/ shilen
3/ Timney

The timney was a nice trigger but still not a jewel

If you can’t win with a jewel it’s not the trigger that
is the issue

[Gyro]

Jewell, all day long !!!

[Bigtravoz]

Gday
I’ve had all 3 rated as follows
1/ jewel
2/ shilen
3/ Timney

The timney was a nice trigger but still not a jewel

If you can’t win with a jewel it’s not the trigger that
is the issue

Was there much between the Shilen and the jewell and what did you like about the jewell that makes you rate it higher.

[Barossa_222]

Bix n Andy hands down

[Bigtravoz]

Bix n Andy hands down

I ain’t that rich unfortunately.

[Gyro]

Bix n Andy hands down

I ain’t that rich unfortunately.

Sooooo often its actually cheaper to buy the best gear right at the start !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bigtravoz]

Bix n Andy hands down

I ain’t that rich unfortunately.

Sooooo often its actually cheaper to buy the best gear right at the start !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Soooo I bought a jewell!

[GSells]

Jewel as my primary and I have a timney as a backup! The timney BR is a great trigger and more rugged than a jewel. I’ve broken jewels ( yep I know , I seem to break stuff!) from blown primers . Timney are very reliable but a pain to adjust especially in a panda glue in action.

Jewel great trigger but needs regular maintenance to prevent failures. Keep any grease away from them! But , like I said my first go to for my trigger!

[Gyro]

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/201 ... shows-how/

Don't be this shooter ! I was once. I learned.

[Bigtravoz]

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2014/04/de-gunking-a-jewell-trigger-speedy-shows-how/

Don't be this shooter ! I was once. I learned.

I had an Omark trigger that looked like that when I bought it. It received a similar treatment.

[GSells]

Wow ! Yep that’s what can happen ! I regularly use diggers shelite and a syringe to pour in through the top of the do Hicky thing that hooks onto the bolt sear . And every 200-300 rounds I’ll pull the whole trigger out and soak in shelite and then pull out and let it drain with trigger shoe downwards . Letting any crud drain out too ! I recently had my jewel fail luckily while testing and the cause was bolt grease under the trigger do hicky engager ( You can tell I’m a Plumber not a gunsmith!) and also rubbish where the pin at the rear holds the trigger into the Kelby trigger housing ! It could have been a Queens or teams event !! That’s why I have a spare timney in a Kelby housing with all of the correct Allen keys ready to change out the jewel! In a hurry !
I’ve had 2 or three fail on me 4 times . 2 from blown primers and the others due to bad maintenance!

All I can say vehemently is !! Don’t use bolt grease at the back of the bolt for the trigger bolt sear to pick up grease and fowel things up and cause a failure to engage the bolt sear .
I just spray the bolt with wd 40 and then wipe down . When I’m cleaning I always clean the bolt race in the action to pick up any crud .

But on the whole a great trigger when maintained !

[Gyro]

Wow ! Yep that’s what can happen ! I regularly use diggers shelite and a syringe to pour in through the top of the do Hicky thing that hooks onto the bolt sear . And every 200-300 rounds I’ll pull the whole trigger out and soak in shelite and then pull out and let it drain with trigger shoe downwards . Letting any crud drain out too ! I recently had my jewel fail luckily while testing and the cause was bolt grease under the trigger do hicky engager ( You can tell I’m a Plumber not a gunsmith!) and also rubbish where the pin at the rear holds the trigger into the Kelby trigger housing ! It could have been a Queens or teams event !! That’s why I have a spare timney in a Kelby housing with all of the correct Allen keys ready to change out the jewel! In a hurry !
I’ve had 2 or three fail on me 4 times . 2 from blown primers and the others due to bad maintenance!

All I can say vehemently is !! Don’t use bolt grease at the back of the bolt for the trigger bolt sear to pick up grease and fowel things up and cause a failure to engage the bolt sear .
I just spray the bolt with wd 40 and then wipe down . When I’m cleaning I always clean the bolt race in the action to pick up any crud .

But on the whole a great trigger when maintained !

I wonder if the quick clean of the Jewell trigger might be best done by pouring/spraying the solvent in from the bottom and then blowing or draining from that direction too i.e. doing it with the trigger upside down, as likely the crud/grit came in from the top in the first place ?

I ALWAYS clean my rifle on its side so any cleaning solvent does not drip into the trigger. This trick alone has made a huge difference to the Jewell trigger reliability. I've suggested that trick to some after seeing them have a failure, but they took no notice and instead bought a 'lesser' trigger. Maybe they just don't like being on the podium ?

A good trigger is HUGELY important to good shooting.

[scott/r]

Novice trigger cleaner question, after soaking the trigger (barnard) in shellite and drying, do you lubricate it and what with if you do.
Scott.