enlighten me on powder measures.

Get or give advice on equipment, reloading and other technical issues.

Moderator: Mod

lonerider43
Posts: 430
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:55 pm
Has thanked: 149 times
Been thanked: 62 times

enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by lonerider43 »

whats the scoop on the powder chuckers ?
RCBS Charge Master Combo/light and other brands
if they are as good as using a trickler and digital scales why do i hear people saying the need to check loads ?
isnt that defeating the purpose ? are they [as i suspect] only good for hunting load accuracy ?

regards

sean.
Australian's Against "Gun-A-Phobia"
GSells
Posts: 801
Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:04 pm
Location: Qld
Has thanked: 948 times
Been thanked: 272 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by GSells »

lonerider43 wrote:whats the scoop on the powder chuckers ?
RCBS Charge Master Combo/light and other brands
if they are as good as using a trickler and digital scales why do i hear people saying the need to check loads ?
isnt that defeating the purpose ? are they [as i suspect] only good for hunting load accuracy ?

regards

sean.

For what it’s worth, I use an rcbs charge master with the Maccas straw conversion . This on its own is most likely accurate for F Standard. But for F open I’ll check on a Gem pro 250 ( they can be tempremtal if not handled properly!) .

My Son then 14 yrs old 2015 , shot a unofficial Aussie record of 90.7 FSB at Bunderberg Opm at 800 yds , just using the Chargemaster , with loads taken after the beep !
8C4BCF74-61E4-4181-B01F-CE38EAAA5F85.jpeg
CBA2922E-40F3-45E4-8853-0E245ECADAAD.jpeg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by GSells on Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:48 am, edited 2 times in total.
ben_g
Posts: 300
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:37 pm
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 114 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by ben_g »

I have been having very acceptable results with the old fashioned RCBS powder thrower, a set of 10-10scales and a dandy trickler.

Next upgrade for me would be a set of A&D’s but if you use them properly and carefully the beam scales will resolve to the kernel of powder.
lonerider43
Posts: 430
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:55 pm
Has thanked: 149 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by lonerider43 »

hmmm
Australian's Against "Gun-A-Phobia"
Wal86
Posts: 319
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:10 pm
Has thanked: 319 times
Been thanked: 135 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by Wal86 »

Ben,
I wouldnt consider the A&D an upgrade...
Cheers
Alan
ben_g
Posts: 300
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:37 pm
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 114 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by ben_g »

I’m not rushing to change my powder weighing setup Alan. It might not be the fastest but it works.

I was under the impression a&d were the ducks guts?? Not your findings?
John23
Posts: 441
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:11 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 23 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by John23 »

Charge masters ect are fine although I would still weigh each charge on some dependable beam scales .

By accident I discovered lee plastic throwers are the best .
I bought a harrel at the same time 2 second hand lee’s .

Harrel is good for Ppc powder but won’t meter 2208 for shit

Lee on the other hand throws almost perfectly every time .
No tricks , inconsistent patterns .

It just meters beautiful

I Still trickle on some beams but honestly would get away with out 95% of the time
Tim N
Posts: 1341
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:18 pm
Location: Branxton NSW
Has thanked: 102 times
Been thanked: 511 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by Tim N »

ben_g wrote:I’m not rushing to change my powder weighing setup Alan. It might not be the fastest but it works.

I was under the impression a&d were the ducks guts?? Not your findings?


The A&D scale with the auto trickler is FAST which is the upgrade not so much the accuracy, if your beam scale measures accurately to the kernel no gain there.
We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we fall to the level of our training. Archilochos 680-645 BC
ben_g
Posts: 300
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:37 pm
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 114 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by ben_g »

Tim N wrote:
ben_g wrote:I’m not rushing to change my powder weighing setup Alan. It might not be the fastest but it works.

I was under the impression a&d were the ducks guts?? Not your findings?


The A&D scale with the auto trickler is FAST which is the upgrade not so much the accuracy, if your beam scale measures accurately to the kernel no gain there.


Thanks Tim.

I suspected the biggest gain was in speed when used with auto throw.

I’ll keep trucking along with the beam scale.
Tim L
Posts: 975
Joined: Mon May 19, 2014 7:11 pm
Location: Townsville
Has thanked: 43 times
Been thanked: 461 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by Tim L »

I used the RCBS and reweighed on a Gempro 250 for a few years. Generally there was very little in it, add a kernal or 2 or remove. The RCBS did have a tendency to overthrow and you have to wait to see that measurement pop up. Not a big issue, just chuck it back in and throw another.
The only reason I now have an AnD set up is because the RCBS started to play up on the slow spin portion of the throw (quite often it just didn't turn). So I replaced it with the AnD and the trickler. It is faster simply because there is no reweigh. I didn't get the powder drop bit, i just use a lee scoop for the bulk and let the AnD do the rest.
Yes, the trickler wanders around the bench because of the stepper motor. My solution was grip tape on my bench and the bottom of the front of the trickler then just adjust the height of the rear as it says in the instructions.
I'm happy with the set up and confident with the throws, but I wouldn't swap from an RCBS just for the sake of it.
Bigtravoz
Posts: 297
Joined: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:43 pm
Has thanked: 49 times
Been thanked: 39 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by Bigtravoz »

John23 wrote:Charge masters ect are fine although I would still weigh each charge on some dependable beam scales .

By accident I discovered lee plastic throwers are the best .
I bought a harrel at the same time 2 second hand lee’s .

Harrel is good for Ppc powder but won’t meter 2208 for shit

Lee on the other hand throws almost perfectly every time .
No tricks , inconsistent patterns .

It just meters beautiful

I Still trickle on some beams but honestly would get away with out 95% of the time


Agreed, I use a lee perfect powder measure and originally intended to set it a grain or so light, once set up I found it would consistently throw within one kernel of any of the adi stick powders from 2206h to 2209 at least.
Jakec27
Posts: 41
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:28 pm
Location: Townsville
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 9 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by Jakec27 »

what is a good electronic scale to buy? it seems you can no longer buy a gempro 250
ajvanwyk
Posts: 453
Joined: Tue May 17, 2016 5:50 pm
Has thanked: 378 times
Been thanked: 465 times

Re: enlighten me on powder measures.

Post by ajvanwyk »

Jakec27 wrote:what is a good electronic scale to buy? it seems you can no longer buy a gempro 250


Jake, if you want a GemPro 250, I have one that from memory was used once or twice (It was the third in a line of free replacements over an 18month period) ... Will be in Bendigo on Sunday...

That said, I have for the longest time, only used a ChargeMaster that I bought second hand on this forum...

Albert
Albert
Rosedale Rifle Club
Australian Points Series
Post Reply Previous topicNext topic