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saum2 · Post by **saum2** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:23 pm

Sierra 80gn .224 prodjectiles are in short supply again. At least the VRA don't have any and was told there wasn't any in Australia. Some problem with the importers I'm told. Same story different year. Maybe we should be able to use any brand or supplier.

Chopper · Post by **Chopper** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:08 pm

There is NO reason you cant, it just becomes FO, WORK IT OUT ?? thats where it will go.

T

saum2 · Post by **saum2** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:44 am

Yes..... I'm seriously looking at FTR & Open, no restrictions

johnk · Post by **johnk** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:31 pm

Wouldn't the .223 be even less competitive under F/TR allowances?

bartman007 · Post by **bartman007** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:43 pm

Hey Krakey,

You do have a selection of other projies, as per the rules downloaded from the NRAA website just now:

PROJECTILES ALLOWED
The following projectiles are at present approved for handloading for Target
Rifle and F Class Standard Disciplines.
.308 Calibre
Sierra MatchKing 2155 155 grain.
Sierra Palma MatchKing 2156 155 grain.
BJD - HBC .308 155 grain.
Nosler HPBT .308 155 grain.

.223 Calibre
Sierra - MatchKing:- .224 69 grain.
Sierra - MatchKing:- .224 80 grain.
Hornady – Amax:- .224 80 grain.
Nosler – HPBT:- .224 80 grain.

Hope that helps. Maybe SARA would have stock, they have been very helpful in the past!!!

Otherwise, come and join us in Open class. There is heaps to choose from, and supply is generally quite good from SARA or Stuart Elliot from QLD.

Good luck.

Fireman_DJ · Post by **Fireman_DJ** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:38 pm

Why would a .223 be less competitive in F/TR?

Less weight and no front rest, but at least you don't have to compete with 6BR's and the like.

Not quite F Standard, but it'll allow him to compete with .308's and .223's with his choice of projectiles in a competitive manner.

You just need to convince your club to take up F/TR if that's the way you wish to go.

bruce moulds · Post by **bruce moulds** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:38 pm

there are noises coming out of usa that with a correct chamber, a long barrel, and re17, 90 gn bergers can be got close to 3000.
that will make any 308 loads eyes pop. it might also keep some of the smaller cased sixes looking a bit poorly.
keep safe,
bruce.

John E · Post by **John E** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:38 pm

Trade the 223 in for a 308 -- problem solved!!!

John

macguru · Post by **macguru** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:49 am

John E wrote:Trade the 223 in for a 308 -- problem solved!!!

John

I have not seen any 223s that can keep up with a good 308 under all conditions and ranges to 800m for f class. Only at closer ranges OR very steady conditions. I have both but use my 223 mainly at 300m.& 400m , where they are equally accurate most of the time

Barry Davies · Post by **Barry Davies** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:09 am

If it won't shoot accurately at 1000yards, you are wasting your time and money.
Barry

Post by **AlanF** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:42 am

The NRAA and State Association shops have a captive market thanks to the restricted projectile rules for TR and F-Std. With this goes an added responsibility for reliable supply. If this is all too hard, then the decent thing would be to go the F/TR way by allowing any projectile in TR and F-Std. Its done overseas - why not here?

bartman007 · Post by **bartman007** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:33 am

If this is all too hard, then the decent thing would be to go the F/TR way by allowing any projectile in TR and F-Std. Its done overseas - why not here?

Mmmmmmmmm.........that'd be nice!

155.5 grain Bergers in F Std :-)

Then we'd have to ban 300 yards, because it would be too easy :wink:

May as well ban 500 yards too

saum2 · Post by **saum2** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:19 am

thanks Alan, My point exactly, if the NRAA cannot supply the restricted projectiles. use the full ICFRA rules & throw it open like overseas.
Geoff

Barry Davies · Post by **Barry Davies** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:07 am

The reason it's not done here Alan is that the NRAA and State associations would then lose that captive market and the dollars that go with it.
I suppose they could increase membership fees to cover what they lose on projectiles.
Barry

bobeager · Post by **bobeager** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:47 am

NRAA not the only source. See specials on Nosler 224 80g @ $180 per 1000 and 308 155g @ $229 per 1000 at Cleaver Firearms
look down the specials page,

www.cleaverfirearms.com/Specials%202.htm

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