Barnard Bolt

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LJT
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Barnard Bolt

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Hi all

Can anyone advise me if the barnard bold head can be changed. I currently have a model p in left hand sut up for F standard ( 223 ). I want to change to F open and would like to know if i can just get the bolt head changed or do i have to buy another bolt.

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Re: Barnard Bolt

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LJT wrote:Hi all

Can anyone advise me if the barnard bold head can be changed. I currently have a model p in left hand sut up for F standard ( 223 ). I want to change to F open and would like to know if i can just get the bolt head changed or do i have to buy another bolt.

Luke.

Not being a gunsmith or a Barnard dealer,my thoughts would be to buy a new bolt,if money was real tight,sell the 223 bolt.However it always seems wrong to cut up or separate a going concern.
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I too have a 223 bolt and just ordered the bare bolt with no pin or spring
I will then lap it into my action and shot a 284 and 223
Very easy to change the guts on a Barnard bolt.
Less than a minutes work
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Peterla wrote:I too have a 223 bolt and just ordered the bare bolt with no pin or spring
I will then lap it into my action and shot a 284 and 223
Very easy to change the guts on a Barnard bolt.
Less than a minutes work

Do not lap the bolt, It will fit just fine. Barnard bolts are interchangeable between actions & are usually within .003" in headspace.
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Hi Keith

Here are the comments I got direct from Barnard on this topic

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Using the same receiver with different bolts has been done many times.
We have not seen or heard any issues arising from doing this, what I do when I put an action together for a customer that is going to have two bolt I will lap both bolts to the receiver one after the other then repeat. After both bolt have been lightly lapped to the receiver I then clean all the lapping past off everything and check that both bolts are bearing equally against each lug. Use a black marker pen on the back of the bolt lugs where it contacts the receiver lugs, rotate the bolt around while putting backward pressure on the bolt this should wipe the black marker pen off each lug if not give another light lap to each bolt.
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The key work here is Lightly lapped.

I know lots of people just use them from the box but I feel a very light lap will do no harm

This will just give me confidence that things are all setup right.
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Peterla wrote:Hi Keith

Here are the comments I got direct from Barnard on this topic

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Using the same receiver with different bolts has been done many times.
We have not seen or heard any issues arising from doing this, what I do when I put an action together for a customer that is going to have two bolt I will lap both bolts to the receiver one after the other then repeat. After both bolt have been lightly lapped to the receiver I then clean all the lapping past off everything and check that both bolts are bearing equally against each lug. Use a black marker pen on the back of the bolt lugs where it contacts the receiver lugs, rotate the bolt around while putting backward pressure on the bolt this should wipe the black marker pen off each lug if not give another light lap to each bolt.
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The key work here is Lightly lapped.

I know lots of people just use them from the box but I feel a very light lap will do no harm.

No offence to you, but Barnard would know how to lap the bolts, most do not & may (will) do more harm than good if not done correctly, you may be able to do this correctly, but I do not know this. I have matched many two bolt Barnard actions without the need to lap any of them, my own included. So your choice of course!!! [-X
Keith H.

This will just give me confidence that things are all setup right.
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Post by bobeager »

Hi Peter, been doing just this for some years now. A .223 bolt BODY, and a 308 Bolt BODY with a single firing pin assembly. Seems to work great with no lapping. Like it so much have ordered another 308 bolt body with a Ejector. I shoot .223 at the Club on Saturdays, and change out to 6 Dasher / .284 Win for OPM's.

addendum: Did not lap. Just fitted appropriate extractor, bolt handle, firing pin mechanism...and Bang. If it needed any more attention I would take it to someone qualified / experienced.
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Ok looks like people that use this system straight out the box and it works

Great news as my 223 is about to be turned into a 308 and 284 with a new bolt

I just reported what I was told but as you guys have mention no lapping needed Yaaaaa
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